The Roux "Example Solve" Game!

Renslay · Jul 9, 2015

"btw, you shouldn't do CFOP solves in the Roux thread" [inserts Petrus/ZZ-like FMC solution claiming it Roux]
Yeaaaah... Suuuure...

Renslay · Jul 9, 2015

Cris738 said:
F L D F U' R2 D' L2 F' R' U F2 D' R2 U B2 D R2 B2 U L2

z2
R2 U2 R U M U L D2 R2 U' M B- FB
R' U R' U R U' M2 r' U r' U' r U r'- SB
R U R' U R U2 R' U2- CMLL
M' U' M' U M U' M U2 M2 U' M U2 M U2- LSE

48 STM. Tips and Improvements? :confused:

You should work on the first block, it can be much shorter. I found this for the same block:

y' x2
D2 M R f M r2 F (7)

Why did you finish your CMLL with a U2? It's not necessary to adjust the corners at this point.
Without it, the LSE can be:
M' U' M' U M U' M' U' M' U2 M' M2 (12)

Otherwise it's a good solve!

h2f · Jul 9, 2015

y D' U' r2 F' r B// FB
U' M U' M' U' r2 U r' U r M' U R'//
U2 R U2 R' U2 R' F R F'//
R U R' U' M' U R U' R'//
U2 M U

40 STM
alg.cubin.net

Renslay · Jul 13, 2015

Scramble of the session:
D2 F' R2 D2 R2 F2 U2 B2 D2 F D2 L' D R F' R2 B2 D' R' F2 U'
alg.cubing.net

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First try:

y2 z
U2 b2 R2 U M2 B' (6)
R U M2 U R U M' U' R2 U' r' (11)
U2 R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 (14)
U M' U' M' U M' U2 M U' M2 U' M U2 M U2 (15)
alg.cubing.net

46 STM.

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Later I found this:

y2 z
U2 R' U' R b2 U2 B (7)
R' U2 R' U R U R2 U M2 U' R (11)
f U F' U' f' L F L' (8)
U' M' U M' U M' U2 M' (8)
alg.cubing.net

34 STM. Easy F2B, short CMLL, lucky LSE.

philipneri · Jul 13, 2015

Renslay said:
Scramble of the session:
D2 F' R2 D2 R2 F2 U2 B2 D2 F D2 L' D R F' R2 B2 D' R' F2 U'
alg.cubing.net

y
F' U L D2 B U' M2 U2 r B' (FB, 10)
U2 M R2 U R U' M U2 r U R' (SB, 11)
U2 R U2 R' U2 R' F R F' (CMLL, 9)
U M' U M' U M U M (EO, 8)
U' M' U2 M' U M' U2 M U2 M2 U2 (LSE, 11)
alg.cubing.net

49 STM

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y
F' U L D2 R' U2 B' r B' (FB, 9)
U2 M' U M2 U r' U R2 U2 R2 U' R' U r (SB, 14)
U' F U' L' U R2 U' L U R' l' U' x' (CMLL, 13)
M' U M U' M' U M (EO, 7)
U' M U2 M' U' M2 (LSE, 6)
alg.cubing.net

49 STM ... Second try yielded shorter FB, EO and LSE, but longer SB and CMLL

Lyn Simm · Jul 13, 2015

Renslay said:
D2 F' R2 D2 R2 F2 U2 B2 D2 F D2 L' D R F' R2 B2 D' R' F2 U'

L2 F2 D2 F' D2 R' F' R' U R2 U2 F U' // first block (13/13)
U' R' U' F' D' F U2 D2 R' D' // non-matching second block (10/23)
R2 U F U' F' // CMLL and correct non-matching (5/28)

alg.cubing.net

28 moves! thanks to BARO-mod for the good start!!

Renslay · Jul 18, 2015

Scramble of the next session:
L D2 F' U R' L B U F' R' U' F2 U B2 D2 L2 U2 D R2 L2 D
alg.cubing.net

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

z'
B R r F B2 U M2 B' (8)
M' U2 M U R' U' R' M' U2 M U r' (12)
l U R' D R U2 R' D' R U L' (11)
M U' M U M' U2 M U2 M' U' M' U2 M U2 M2 (15)
alg.cubing.net

46 STM.

porkynator · Jul 19, 2015

Fw R2 Fw D' L D (6)
Rw2 U' R2 B U B' R U M' U R' (11)
R2 D' R U2 R' D R U2 Rw (9)
U M' U M U' M' U2 M U' Uw2 M Uw2 M (13)

Lyn Simm · Jul 21, 2015

Renslay said:
L D2 F' U R' L B U F' R' U' F2 U B2 D2 L2 U2 D R2 L2 D

B' D' L2 F2 B2 L' U' L2 F' R' // first block (10)
U' B' D2 F U2 ($) R F R F2 D2 B // second block (11)
($) = U2 B' D B U2 B' D' B // CMLL (6)

27 htm

alg.cubing.net

-Lyn

Renslay · Jul 21, 2015

Lyn Simm said:
B' D' L2 F2 B2 L' U' L2 F' R' // first block (10)
U' B' D2 F U2 ($) R F R F2 D2 B // second block (11)
($) = U2 B' D B U2 B' D' B // CMLL (6)

27 htm

alg.cubing.net

-Lyn

Please don't call it Roux when it is obviously not. It can confuse beginners. If you want I can give you scrambles in the FMC thread.

Renslay · Jul 24, 2015

Scramble of the session:
U L2 U F2 R2 F2 U' R2 U R2 U F' U2 B L' D' L D' R F2 U'
alg.cubing.net

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

z' x
D2 F U' F r' F' x' (6)
M' r U' M U' R U R U R U M' R' U r (15)
F R2 D R' U R D' R2' U' F' (10)
M' U M U' M' U2 M U M2 U' M2 (11)
alg.cubing.net

42 STM. Pretty good.

h2f · Jul 24, 2015

y F D2 F' M U R' F// (7)
M' U r' U' r' U2 M2 U2 r' U' r // (11)
U' R U2 R D R' U2 R D' r2 // (10)
U' M' U M //eo (4)
U' M2 U M2 U2 // (5)

alg.cubing.net

37 STM. Nice solve.

Lyn Simm · Jul 24, 2015

Renslay said:
Please don't call it Roux

ok I will put CMLL at the end next time!! sorry!! :tu

Renslay said:
U L2 U F2 R2 F2 U' R2 U R2 U F' U2 B L' D' L D' R F2 U'

U' R U2 R2 D2 B2 F' L' F' B2 L y // first block (11)
U' R F2 B D' L2 U' L' U D F2 B' // second block (12)
l U' R D2 R' U R D2 l2 // CMLL (9)

32 htm

alg.cubing.net

-Lyn

Renslay · Jul 27, 2015

Scramble of the session:
U2 D F2 R' F R2 L' D B2 R2 U2 F' R2 D2 F' D2 B U2 L2 R'
alg.cubing.net

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

z'
u r' F' M' F' u r' F (8)
R' U2 F R F' R U' M2 U r (10)
U R U R' U R U L' U R' U' L (12)
M' U M U M' U' M' U2 M' U' M' U2 (12)
alg.cubing.net

42 STM.

Lyn Simm · Jul 28, 2015

Renslay said:
U2 D F2 R' F R2 L' D B2 R2 U2 F' R2 D2 F' D2 B U2 L2 R'

R' L' B R B' L B R' D' F U2 R' D L' B' F' R' F x2 // first block (18)
R' U' R U' R U2 R' U2 R2 U R2 U' R2 U R' // second block (15)

alg.cubing.net

33 htm

-Lyn

Knut · Jul 28, 2015

z
E' U' r' F M' U2 r B' // FB 8
r U' R2 U' M R U' R2 U' r U' M r' U' r // SB 15
U' F R U R' U' F' // CMLL 7
M' U M U' M' U M' U M U2 M' U2 //LSE 12
Alg.cubing.net

Pretty good solve for me. Having a 7 move CMLL helps.

2180161 · Jul 28, 2015

E'F' E F U' R U R' L F // FB

U R U M' r U' R2 U2 r' M U2 M' U2 R' U R//SB

U F R U' R' U' R U R' F' //CMLL

M' R U R' U' M' U R U'R' M' R U R' U' M' U R U'R' M' //EO

M U2 M' U M U2 M U2M2

U M' U2 M// M-Slice
70 STM

how can I work on efficiency? with roux I average about 25 seconds. Anyway to improve?

adimare · Jul 28, 2015

Lyn Simm said:
fmc solution

These solutions would be welcomed in the 3x3x3 example solves thread (especially if you add a a few comments about how you figured them out). Why focus on mildly annoying some Roux solvers when you could be helping out people interested in fmc example solves?

h2f · Jul 29, 2015

2180161 said:
M' R U R' U' M' U R U'R' M' R U R' U' M' U R U'R' M' //EO

how can I work on efficiency? with roux I average about 25 seconds. Anyway to improve?

Dont use RU move during EO - you can solve all cases only with M/M' and U/U'.

Renslay · Jul 29, 2015

2180161 said:
E'F' E F U' R U R' L F // FB

U R U M' r U' R2 U2 r' M U2 M' U2 R' U R//SB

U F R U' R' U' R U R' F' //CMLL

M' R U R' U' M' U R U'R' M' R U R' U' M' U R U'R' M' //EO

M U2 M' U M U2 M U2M2

U M' U2 M// M-Slice
70 STM

how can I work on efficiency? with roux I average about 25 seconds. Anyway to improve?

First block:
I would start with R' u' R u U R U' M U x'

Second block:
U R U M' r U' R2 U2 is a good start, but for the last pair I recommend r2 U2 M' U' r

LSE:
Use only <M,U> rotations for the EO (except for the six-edge-orientation case, which I recommend R U' r' U' M' U r U r' or its inverse). Learn the EO cases!

Here, I would either use:
M' U' M U2 M' U2 M' U M' // EO
U2 M' U2 M' U' M2 U' // UL+UR
M U2 M U2 // M-perm

or:
U' M U2 M' U2 M' U M' // EO
U2 M' U2 M' U' M2 U' // UL+UR
M' U2 M' U2 M' // M-perm

Both of them are kinda "worst case scenario", none of the three parts should be longer in any solve.

Overall: your F2B are decent. You need to work on your LSE, maninly on the efficiency of the EO.

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