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The 3x3x3 Example Solve Thread

Attila

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I just want to know, how you generated this 15 move scramble?
Another question to FM cubers:
My solution was according with my usual CF technique, and the first 5 moves was obvious for me,
but this start same as the scramble ending. Considered to be legit the solution in such cases?
I think about my solution, was funny, but I not count as PB, or as a great job.
 

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I just want to know, how you generated this 15 move scramble?
Another question to FM cubers:
My solution was according with my usual CF technique, and the first 5 moves was obvious for me,
but this start same as the scramble ending. Considered to be legit the solution in such cases?
I think about my solution, was funny, but I not count as PB, or as a great job.

Oh, sorry I used CStimer but I guess I must have missed out some twists when I copied and pasted
 

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B L R U2 L2 R B U2 B R' D U2 L' B F2 U B' F2 D B L R2 B F2 D2

With 3-style cos why not

x2 y' // preffered bld orientation

Corners:
L' D L U2 L' D' L U2 // UBL - UFR - RDB
D U2 B U2 B' U2 F2 U2 B U2 B' U2 F2 D' // UBL - LUF - FDB
B2 L B2 L' B2 R2 B2 L B2 L' B2 R2 // UBL - BRU - FDB
(U R U' R' U R U' R') L (R U R' U' R U R' U') L' // 2 twisted corners

Edges:
R2 U' R' E R U R' E' R' // UF - DR - LF
F' L' F M2 F' L F M2 // UF - DB - LD
B' M2 B R B' M2 B R' // UF - RB - RU
L' B M2 B' L B M2 B' // UF - LU - LB
F2 d M d' F2 d M' d' // UF - BU - DF

All my own, not looked up

Next: R2 D' F D F L2 B' U R2 D2 F2 L' B2 U B2 D B2 D' L' R F U R' F2 L
 

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scramble: B R2 F' L2 R2 U2 B' F' L2 F' R2 D' L' B' U R' D' B2 U2 L R

I use fridich/CFOP as my main speedcubing method

z2 L F' B D' F2 // Cross
U L' U L y' L F' L' F // 1st pair
U' R U' R' d' R' U R // 2nd pair
F U F' // 3rd pair
U' F' U F U2 F R' F' R // 4th pair (sledgehammer at the end to give me some edges flipped in the OLL)
U2 F R U R' U' R U R' U' F' // OLL
y' R2 u R' U R' U' R u' R2 y' R' U R // PLL

Next scramble: D R' U F2 L' F' R' F' D L B D2 U B U2 D2 F D2 F D' U2 L2 F B2 R'
 

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Next scramble: D R' U F2 L' F' R' F' D L B D2 U B U2 D2 F D2 F D' U2 L2 F B2 R'

x y2//inspection
R' U2 R D F D2 U B// FB (8/8)
U M U2 M2 U M' U R' U' R' U2 r'//SB (12/20)
U x R U' R' D R U R' D' x'// CMLL (9/29)
M' U M' U2 M' U' M U2 M2 U' M' U2 M'//LSE (13/42)
Next: L R U2 L2 R B U2 B D' B2 U2 L R' B F2 D2 B2 L' U2 F' L'
 

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x2 y'
D R' F2 D F' D'// Cross (6/6)
R U' R' U R U' R'// F2L-1 (7/13)
R' U' R U2 L U L'// F2L-2 (7/20)
y' U2 R U R' F R' F' R// F2L-3 (8/28)
y R' U2 R U' R' U' R// F2L-4 (7/35)
r U R' U R U' R' U R U2 r'// OLL (11/46)
x R' U R' D2 R U' R' D2 R2 B'// PLL (10/56)

Next: R L' B L' B2 R D2 L' F B2 U' R2 B2 U' F2 U2 B2 U' F2 U' R
 

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x2 y'
D R' F2 D F' D'// Cross (6/6)
R U' R' U R U' R'// F2L-1 (7/13)
R' U' R U2 L U L'// F2L-2 (7/20)
y' U2 R U R' F R' F' R// F2L-3 (8/28)
y R' U2 R U' R' U' R// F2L-4 (7/35)
r U R' U R U' R' U R U2 r'// OLL (11/46)
x R' U R' D2 R U' R' D2 R2 B'// PLL (10/56)

Next: R L' B L' B2 R D2 L' F B2 U' R2 B2 U' F2 U2 B2 U' F2 U' R
I completely forgot about this thread after it got moved out of general puzzle discussion... sad sad. Also, not gonna solve that scramble because it sucks total ass. I tried to find something decent and just could not. DNF. (seriously... one of you try to find something in that mess if you're looking for a laugh)

Next: B' U' F2 R' B' U F' R B2 D' U F' L U2 F B2 U R F B U2 L2 D R F'
 

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I guess I'll do two.

Next: R L' B L' B2 R D2 L' F B2 U' R2 B2 U' F2 U2 B2 U' F2 U' R
x y2
R U R' F R L D// Cross (7/7)
R U2 R' U R U' R'// F2L-1 (7/14)
U' R' U R L' U L// F2L-2 (7/21)
y R' U2 R U' R' U R// F2L-3 (7/28)
d R' U' R U' y R U R'// F2L-4 (8/36)
R2 u R' U R' U' R u' R2 y' R' U R// PLL (12/48)

Next: B' U' F2 R' B' U F' R B2 D' U F' L U2 F B2 U R F B U2 L2 D R F'
x y2
F L F U' R' D2 R' F R D'// Cross (10/10)
F R' F' U R// F2L-1+2 (5/15)
U L U L' U2 L U' L'// F2L-3 (8/23)
U2 L' U2 L U2 L' U L// F2L-4 (8/31)
l' U' L U' L' U2 l// OLL (7/38)
x R2 D2 R U R' D2 R U' l U// PLL (10/48)

Next: D2 F L' D R' D' R' L U2 D2 F R2 D2 L2 B2 D2 B L2 F2 D
 

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B' U2 L2 R' D' B R' B2 D' R F2 L D' R2 F2 D' L2 U F' B' L' R2 D' L' R2

Method:fridrich
1.cross:Z2 D2 L D' R' F d' L F' L'
2.first pair:L U' L' U' R' U' r
second pair:U' L U' L' U L U L'
third pair: R U2 R' d R' U' R
fourth pair:U' (R U R' U') (R U R' U') (R U R' U')
3.OLL: U' R U2 R2 U' R2 U' R2 U2 R
4.PLL x' (R U' R') D (R U R') D' (R U R') D (R U' R') D' F2 (AUF)


NExt scramble: B' L2 U2 B U2 R2 F U2 F D2 F' R' D2 B' D' U2 F' L' U' R' B'
 

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B' U2 L2 R' D' B R' B2 D' R F2 L D' R2 F2 D' L2 U F' B' L' R2 D' L' R2


NExt scramble: B' L2 U2 B U2 R2 F U2 F D2 F' R' D2 B' D' U2 F' L' U' R' B'
B' L2 U2 B U2 R2 F U2 F D2 F' R' D2 B' D' U2 F' L' U' R' B'

Method: Sub-15 CFOP
inspection: z2
Cross: R' F L' B L2 F' D (7)
F2L 1: U R' U R L' U L (7)
F2L 2: U' R' F R F' U R U' R' (9)
F2L 3: y U' R U R2 U2 R (7)
F2L 4: U R' U' R r' U' R U M' (9)
OLL: U' R U2 R2 F R F' R U2 R' (10)
PLL: U R' U2 R U2 R' F R U R' U R' F' R2 U' (15)
Move total: 74

Next: F2 U' L2 B2 D B2 R2 D' R2 F2 R2 F' R B F' D F L U' R' F'
 

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B' L2 U2 B U2 R2 F U2 F D2 F' R' D2 B' D' U2 F' L' U' R' B'
Next: F2 U' L2 B2 D B2 R2 D' R2 F2 R2 F' R B F' D F L U' R' F'

F2 U' L2 B2 D B2 R2 D' R2 F2 R2 F' R B F' D F L U' R' F'

Okay and the solve:
Method: F3L
Step one: U F R' L' F' D' B' R D F D2 F R' L2 B' U F2 U
pretty sure its move optimal, CubeExplorer never failed me before.

next scramble: F' B2 D2 B2 L U2 R' U2 R U2 R' B2 F D R B' R B2 D' F'
 

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Scramble: D F2 L2 U B2 U2 R2 B2 U' L2 R' F' U2 L2 D' F' L' B2 R' F'
Inverse scramble: F R B2 L F D L2 U2 F R L2 U B2 R2 U2 B2 U' L2 F2 D'

F D' L R' F2
[SWITCH]
F' B D B2 R D' R'
[SWITCH]
B' U B U' D2
[SWITCH]
D L' D2 B' D
[SWITCH]
B L B2 L B

Skeleton: F D' L R' F2 B' U B U' D2 B L B2 L B D' B D2 L D' R D R' B2 D' B' F

I let insertion finder do the rest:

F D' L R' * F2 B' U B U' D2 B L B2 L B D' B D2 L D' # R D R' B2 D' B' F
At *: R' F' ^ R B' R' F R B
At ^: B L2 B' R B L2 B' R'
At #: D L' D' R D L D' R'

Solution: F D' L R2 F' B L2 B' R B L2 B2 R' F R F2 U B U' D2 B L B2 L B D' B D R D L R' B2 D' B' F

Next: R2 U B2 R2 D2 U' L2 B2 F2 D U' L' D2 B' R' F' D' L2 B' F2
 

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next: U2 R' F2 R U2 F2 R U2 L2 F2 R D L2 F' R' D' U' F2 L B R'

U' B2 U L' D2 R U' L U2 L2 B D B' F R2 L' D F' B2 D B R' B' D' F B2 L U L' D' L U' L' F' L' B2 L F L' B2 L // 41 HTM

Solve was ****, deconstruction would be embarrassing :p

Next: D2 B2 D' B2 L2 D B2 R2 B2 R2 U L B2 D2 R B D2 L F2 U' R' U'

Btw Attila, what is your method? Whenever I go through your solutions I can't understand any of your logic. Explain pls?
 

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R2 B' U D R' U' B L' D' B' F R2 D'//corners
F' D U' R/orient some edges I think
L2 F D L R' B'// orient some other edges I think
D' L2 D2 U2 F2 D//PLL for both sided like in a cuboid I think

next: U2 R' F2 R U2 F2 R U2 L2 F2 R D L2 F' R' D' U' F2 L B R'

next: U2 R' F2 R U2 F2 R U2 L2 F2 R D L2 F' R' D' U' F2 L B R'

U' B2 U L' D2 R U' L U2 L2 B D B' F R2 L' D F' B2 D B R' B' D' F B2 L U L' D' L U' L' F' L' B2 L F L' B2 L // 41 HTM

Solve was ****, deconstruction would be embarrassing :p

Next: D2 B2 D' B2 L2 D B2 R2 B2 R2 U L B2 D2 R B D2 L F2 U' R' U'

Btw Attila, what is your method? Whenever I go through your solutions I can't understand any of your logic. Explain pls?

x' y2 R' U R L2 D' Rw' F// 7/7
M' U' M2 U' R2 U M2 R U2 B' R B Rw'// 13/20
U x' R U' R' D R U R' D'// 9/29
U2 M' U2 M2 U2 M U2 M' U2 M// 10/39
Next: F U' F2 D' B U R' F' L D' R' U' L U B' D2 R' F U2 D2

Btw, Montykins I added what I think Attila does. Its like solving a cuboid i think.
 

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Btw Attila, what is your method? Whenever I go through your solutions I can't understand any of your logic. Explain pls?




This is a corners first method, I always use this.
For better understanding, I'll explain the logical order of steps.
1st step: I needed to find a short solution only for corners ( like 2x2x2 cube)
usually first orient (like Guimond 1st step), then permute all.
2nd step: Based on this alg, try to solve some corner-edge pairs, during solve corners (as much as possible).
3rd step: solve more edges to LSE case.
4th step: LSE.

For example, let's look the latest solution:
Scramble: R2 U B2 R2 D2 U' L2 B2 F2 D U' L' D2 B' R' F' D' L2 B' F2
I found the following 10-move corner solution on inverse:
(U' R' U' B R' U) orient,
(F U2 B R2) solve all.
If I write down reverse this 10 moves, is the corner solution on normal scramble:
R2 B' U2 F' U' R B' U R U.
Based on this, I found the followimg start:
R2 B' U D R' U' B L' D' B' F R2 D all corners and 5 edges
( instead of 3rd move U2 "UD", then an inserted B'F slice move)
D2 F' D U' R 6th edge, with D2 moves I forced an easy LSE orientation,
L2 F D L R' B' 2 more edges and orient the rest,
D' L2 D2 U2 F2 D.
 

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Next: D2 B2 D' B2 L2 D B2 R2 B2 R2 U L B2 D2 R B D2 L F2 U' R' U'

On inverse: D R2 F D' R2 U' R'
[SWITCH]
D' B U' B D L U' L U L' U' B L' B' L U F' L F
U' R' F R' D2 L B' L' D2 R2 F'

Solution: D' B U' B D L U' L U L' U' B L' B' L U F' L F U' R' F R' D2 L B' L' D2 R2 F' R U R2 D F' R2 D'

Next: D U2 R2 F D' R2 B2 D F U' R' D U L R2 B2 L R2 D' B
 

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Next: D U2 R2 F D' R2 B2 D F U' R' D U L R2 B2 L R2 D' B

Scramble: D U2 R2 F D' R2 B2 D F U' R' D U L R2 B2 L R2 D' B

Inspection: None
Cross: D2 R' D' R' L2 (5)
F2L 1: U' L U' L' U2 y' L U L' (9)
F2l 2: U' R' F R F' R U' R' (8)
F2l 3: U' y L U' L' U' R U R' (9)
F2l 4: U L U L' U' L U L' U' L U L' (12)
OLL: U R U R' U R U' R' U' R' F R F' (13)
EPLL: U M2 U' M' U2 M U' M2 U (9)

Total Move Count: 65
 
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