Weekly competition 2009-16

3x3x3 One-handed:
1. (27.67)
2. (22.02)
3. 24.26
4. 22.12
5. 24.67
Average: 23.68

Note: I cannot balance one-handed practice with practicing Roux, gaming (not like, 24/7) and school (all min days next week = practice!)...I need to practice this for Berkeley next weekend...and I have work over the weekend (at least it's not too much ).

I would also like to thank Jai and Loh Jing for beating me in this event

Peter V:

2x2x2: (9.71), 10.76, (DNF), 12.34, 11.30 = 11.47 avg.
Comment: Edit: Changed thrid solve to DNF. Still an O.K. average.

3x3x3: (28.20), 32.98, 30.07, (33.42), 33.30 = 32.12 avg.
Comment: Not so good, but at least consistent.

4x4x4: 2:56.97 (O), (3:17.05 (OP)), (2:49.73 (OP)), 3:00.57 (OP), 3:06.00 (OP) = 3:01.18 avg.
Comment: Wow, both parities on every solve except the first.

2-4 Realy: 4:14.53 (OP)
Comment: More parity!

Magic: (1.45), (1.95), 1.62, 1.50, 1.53 = 1.55 avg.
Comment: Good.

FMC:
2x2x2: F D' B U R' D2 (6)
X-Cross: B2 U' L' U B2 U' L U B' (9)
3rd Slot: U R' U' R (4)
4th Slot: U L' U L U F U F' U F U' F' (12)
OLL: R U R' U' R' F R F' (8)
PLL: U' F2 U' M' U2 M U' F2 (10)
Total = 49 Moves

Kian Barry

2x2x2- (4.55), 7.34, 6.63, 5.39, (7.57) Average- 6.45
3x3x3- (15.91), (21.54), 19.57, 20.32, 19.23 Average- 19.71
4x4x4- (1:10.19), (1:27.38), 1:21.12, 1:17.27, 1:23.77 Average- 1:20.72
5x5x5- (2:32.96), 2:19.63, 2:26.93, (2:07.06), 2:22.93 Average- 2:23.16
2-4 Relay- 2:05.78
2-5 Relay- 4:09.32
3x3 OH- 55.67, 52.90, (44.85), 54.55, (1:02.74) Average- 54.37

2x2:
4.89 3.11 3.8 3.09 1.31 = 3.33
Comment: 3.33 Average with a SD of 0.33 Oh, and those were way too easy.
3x3: 16.13 17.61 17.61 12.47 13.55 = 15.76
Comment: First 3 solves, common. Im liking the last 2 though
4x4: 1:16.96 1:18.18 1:22.38 1:19.16 1:17.93 = 1:18.42
Comment: Meh...

MatsBergsten said:

Sorry Michael, but Snake is no longer with us.
Some of you seems very fond of him

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Aw no snake! Snake has no scramble so I usually start off with that one. It's also an easy one for accumulating "turning-up" points!

PeterV said:

Peter V:

2x2x2: 9.71, 10.76, (8.36), (12.34), 11.30 = 10.59 avg.
Comment: Good.

3x3x3: (28.20), 32.98, 30.07, (33.42), 33.30 = 32.12 avg.
Comment: Not so good, but at least consistent.

The timer didn't start on the third 2x2 solve, so I re-applied the scramble and solved again. Should this be counted as a DNF?

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Yes.

Chris Hardwick
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4x4x4_bld: 6:09.41 DNF 5:27.21
5x5x5_bld: DNF DNF DNF
comment: For the past year or so my 5x5x5 has been getting worse and worse, or so it feels like to me. I feel that I really, really like the mental pacing of 4x4x4 BLD and that I am trying too hard to apply that to 5x5x5. I need to work on figuring out an optimal 5x5x5 pacing, for me that is.

Chris

2x2 - 16.28, (9.25), 14.69, (DNF), 14.13 = 15.03
3x3 - 21.18, (26.33), 21.09, (20.75), 22.40 = 21.56
new pb
4x4 - 2:34.11, (2:38.36), (2:17.56), 2:31.75, 2:19.30 = 2:28.39
5x5 - 3:00.06, 3:14.11, (2:56.28), 2:59.94, (3:23.52) = 3:04.70
7x7 - 9:33.58, 9:39.25, (9:55.12), 9:02.52, (9.00.86) = 9:25.12


magic - (DNF), 5.00, 5.97, 3.97, (3.34) = 4.98
pminx - 17.96, (26.68), 18.68, (13.47), 18.56 = 18.40
lame
mminx - 5:36.41, (5:12.36), (7:03.22), 6:05.11, 6:15.78 = 5:59.10
started well, got worse.

2-3-4 - 3:45.55
2-3-4-5 - 6:06.06

FMC: Finding a good start was easy, so I aimed for a sub-30, ignoring all 30+ solutions. After one hour I was left with nothing, so DNF. Anyone sub 30?
Gus

3x3x3 Fewest Moves: 34 moves
Solution: D' B' U2 B2 U' R' U2 R' D B' D B D2 L' B' L B' L' B L2 B' L' D B L B' L' B' U' B D' B' U B

Comment: Instead of looking for an insertion, I explored a 15-move F2L minus 1 slot case, but I didn't come up with a better solution.
Explanation:
2x2x2: D' B' U2 B2 U' R' U2 R'
2X Cross: D B' D B D2
3rd slot: L' B' L B' L' B L
4th slot: L B' L'
ELL: D B L B' L' (D')
CLL: (D) B' U' B D' B' U B

trying-to-speedcube... said:

PeterV said:

Peter V:

2x2x2: 9.71, 10.76, (8.36), (12.34), 11.30 = 10.59 avg.
Comment: Good.

3x3x3: (28.20), 32.98, 30.07, (33.42), 33.30 = 32.12 avg.
Comment: Not so good, but at least consistent.

The timer didn't start on the third 2x2 solve, so I re-applied the scramble and solved again. Should this be counted as a DNF?

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Yes.

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Shucks. Why do I always DNF easy scrambles?

2x2: 8.04 9.87 9.78 5.97 7.93 = 8.58 (not good)
3x3: 20.11 20.97 23.47 24.74 25.46 = 23.30 (ugh)
4x4: 1:31.56 1:29.12 1:34.04 1:30.86 1:34.65 = 1:32.15 (alright)
3x3OH: 51.49 1:03.41 53.36 52.00 50.92 = 52.28 (good)
pyraminx: 12.06 13.26 13.96 13.15 9.99 = 12.85 (consistent)
wish I had time to do more but I am just too tired

Mats B
2x2: 27.89 21.83 25.19 35.42 26.87 = 26.65
3x3: 61.32 55.68 44.30 86.31 49.27 = 55.42
PB in spite of the 86. 2 under 50 is good for me

4x4: 3:35.02 3:42.82 3:56.90 4:02.58 3:36.55 = 3:45.42 PB too
5x5: 11:36.46 12:18.29 10:16.49 10:09.84 9:23.82 = 10:40.93
2x2BLD: 38.89 DNF 47.61 = 38.89
Good & PB
3x3BLD: DNF DNF 2:25.32 = 2:25.32
Good
4x4BLD: 17:58 15:34 DNF (13:00) = 15:34
I started with 2 ok times. Then I read Chris's times and had to go for speed
It is a little frustrating to think you did some good and then someone (albeit the
worlds best(?)) goes three times as fast. I got speed and a DNF.
But I got to agree with him, 4BLD is a nice mix of memo and speed.
IMO 3BLD is too fast and 5BLD to slow/too much memo.

5x5BLD: 35:46 DNF (33:05) DNF (31:17) = 35:46
After the good first one I tried faster. Last one was only three centers off.

Multi: 3 / 3 24:42 Went slow
2-4Rel: 5:41.00
2-5Rel: 17:46.16
I wonder why I bother with 5x5 speed :confused::confused:
(and 2x2 speed too :confused::confused

All done this week!

Mike Hughey:
2x2x2: 8.03, 9.86, 10.19, 4.77, 6.59 = 8.16
Comment: It looks like Guimond took 2 or 3 seconds off my times with Ortega. When you’re as slow as I am, saving a few moves per solve really helps! I think that’s the main difference for me – fewer moves. My lookahead is really no better – it stinks with both.
3x3x3: 25.29, 24.29, 28.66, 26.05, 27.16 = 26.17
4x4x4: 1:55.16 (O), 1:43.11 (P), 1:55.84, 1:37.58 (P), 1:42.27 (O) = 1:46.85
5x5x5: 2:51.43, 2:49.88, 2:55.22, 2:33.44, 2:24.43 = 2:44.92
6x6x6: 5:38.99 (OP), 5:28.56 (OP), 5:06.68 (O), 4:39.58 (P), 37:25.29 (16:43) = 5:24.74
Comment: New PB on the fourth solve – it probably would have been sub-4:30 if it weren’t for the parity! The fifth solve is my second-fastest 6x6x6 BLD ever, but I guess it really shouldn’t count. Very very easy lucky centers (put it this way, you’ll know which way to orient it for BLD almost instantly). Still, I’m very happy with the memo time, in particular.
7x7x7: 8:03.09, 7:35.26, 7:48.93, 7:34.42, DNF (52:12.62, 25:17) = 7:49.09
Comment: Fifth solve was off by 2 obliques, 4 corners, 4 centrals, 8 inner wings, and 8 outer wings. But all of it can be accounted for by the fact that if I did a D’ B’ D, the corners are fixed. It looks like I left out a B’ somewhere when undoing a setup move – without that missing move, I would have been off by just 2 obliques. The time was great – just six more minutes to shave off in order to equal Ville’s first solve! Someday I’ll get there! (Of course, by then Ville will have done sub-30, probably on his second attempt.)
2x2x2 BLD: DNF, 33.80, 1:10.54 = 33.80
3x3x3 BLD: 2:05.03, 2:24.11, 2:06.66 = 2:05.03
4x4x4 BLD: 8:03.27 (3:51), 9:16.87 (4:26), 8:31.08 (3:46) = 8:03.27
Comment: Finally some decent accuracy!
5x5x5 BLD: DNF (17:53.60, 9:15), 17:54.68 (9:55), 21:00.34 (11:15) = 17:54.68
Comment: First one was off by 3 X centers – I used the wrong piece to do the cycle.
3x3x3 multiBLD: DNF (1/6, 60:00, 34:30 memorization)
Comment: I gave the details for this in the Blindfold Failures thread. It’s a disastrous result, but I’m happy with it because I was really close on most of the cubes, using commutators and no preorientation for corners. I’m going to keep working on this for multi – hopefully this will start showing some real results in a few more weeks. So everyone else should have some good opportunities for a while to easily beat me in multi.
3x3x3 OH: 52.09, 44.90, 47.84, 48.78, 40.81 = 47.17
3x3x3 WF: 1:55.75, 1:59.69, 2:01.93, 2:04.11, 1:50.03 = 1:59.12
3x3x3 Match the scramble: 4:15.71, 1:47.60, 1:47.81, DNF, 1:41.45 = 2:37.04
Comment: Ouch! On the first one, I solved the whole thing then noticed I did the cross wrong (so the pairs weren’t paired properly). So I had to solve it a second time. On the fourth one, the same thing happened, but that time I didn’t notice the mistake until after stopping the timer. It was really disappointing, too, because it would have been my best time – 1:25.
2-4 relay: 2:34.28 (OP)
2-5 relay: 4:54.77
Magic: 2.66, 2.25, 2.46, 3.83, 2.18 = 2.46
Master Magic: 4.72, 4.61, 4.22, 3.83, 5.19 = 4.52
Clock: 22.09, 22.09, 24.81, 24.90, 31.90 = 23.93
MegaMinx: 3:30.60, 3:17.44, 3:14.93, 3:09.70, 2:58.52 = 3:14.02
Pyraminx: 19.15, 19.93, 26.05, 19.31, 16.44 = 19.46
Square-1: 1:03.30 (P), 51.65, 1:13.16 (P), 49.02, 1:02.58 = 59.18
3x3x3 Fewest Moves: 32 moves
Comment: See solution in earlier post. Really, it was a lucky solution, not a particularly good one.

@Mats and Chris: I'm the opposite - I find the pace of 5x5x5 BLD much nicer than 4x4x4 BLD. 4x4x4 BLD and 3x3x3 BLD feel the same to me - too rushed. But this week was pretty nice for 4x4x4 for me. Mats, don't be frustrated with your times - you're starting to get seriously fast. It won't be long before you're sub-10 on 4x4x4 BLD, at your current rate of improvement.

And Mats, as for why you keep trying with 2x2x2 and 5x5x5 speed: so you can get faster at BLD, of course! You should really work on getting sub-30 at 3x3x3 - I think it would help your BLD times lots.

PeterV said:

trying-to-speedcube... said:

PeterV said:

Peter V:

2x2x2: 9.71, 10.76, (8.36), (12.34), 11.30 = 10.59 avg.
Comment: Good.

3x3x3: (28.20), 32.98, 30.07, (33.42), 33.30 = 32.12 avg.
Comment: Not so good, but at least consistent.

The timer didn't start on the third 2x2 solve, so I re-applied the scramble and solved again. Should this be counted as a DNF?

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Yes.

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Shucks. Why do I always DNF easy scrambles?

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In competition the way it works if the timer doesn't start is that they will ask you to solve the cube (or if you're REALLY slow they'll get someone faster to do it) and then give you a different scramble. Because a timer malfunction is not considered to be your fault, you get a re-do instead of a DNF.

I wouldn't consider it a DNF because you didn't know the rules and because this is just practice, but next time, redo the solve with a new scramble (from CCT or cubemania or something like that).

i think they do the inverse of the scramble that was suppose to be given or something like that

MatsBergsten said:

4x4BLD: 17:58 15:34 DNF (13:00) = 15:34
I started with 2 ok times. Then I read Chris's times and had to go for speed
It is a little frustrating to think you did some good and then someone (albeit the
worlds best(?)) goes three times as fast. I got speed and a DNF.
But I got to agree with him, 4BLD is a nice mix of memo and speed.

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Hey Mats,

Keep in mind though, I've been practicing 4x4 BLD seriously since right after Worlds '05, or about 3.5 years. When I first started it took me a couple months to get my first ever sub-20 solve, and I flipped out! And I feel the same way as you do looking at Ville's practice times ;-)

I've been working on my 5x5x5 BLD in the past couple days, and have decided that I tend to just blindly do solves without working on my memory methods, recall speed, etc.. So I've decided that in order to get more serious about 5x5 BLD I need to practice those things a lot more than I used to.

Keep up the good work, and trust me you'll find that each step forward you take with your times will be more permanent than it seems like. Once you get your first sub-10, your brain sort of learns how a sub-10 solve should go and it's not long after that when you will be semi-regular sub-10, then fairly regular sub-10 and you get the idea.

@Mike
Mike as much as you do the really big cubes BLD I wonder if now the 5x5x5 seems like the "middle" cube. Just the right balance between lots of memo and just going super fast? Congrats on the success rate this week, and on the times too! You totally creamed me on 5x5x5, again



Chris

cmhardw said:

Mike as much as you do the really big cubes BLD I wonder if now the 5x5x5 seems like the "middle" cube. Just the right balance between lots of memo and just going super fast? Congrats on the success rate this week, and on the times too! You totally creamed me on 5x5x5, again

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I think you're right about that. And I think that's what went wrong for me the week of the Ohio Open, actually. I stopped doing 6x6x6 and 7x7x7 for a week so I could concentrate on lots of 5x5x5 BLD. And then suddenly I lost the ability to do them. It seems like I adjusted away from it being the "middle" cube, and all of a sudden I wasn't any good at it anymore.

Now I'm back to doing a 6x6x6 and 7x7x7 every week, and all of a sudden 5x5x5 is getting easier again. They were a little slow, still - I've slowed down on memorization - but I think it's starting to get better again. Hopefully I'll get back to current WR times again soon (which I'm sure is still 2-3 minutes slower than you are these days!).

So what were your 5x5x5 DNF times like?

(Oh, and by the way, I'm really starting to make progress on BH corners. I've worked my way through about half the cases now. It's really amazing how easy they get as you go.)

3x3: (23.77), 28.38, 24.97, 26.27, (30.16) = 26.54
WOW THAT SUCKS DUDE. lol i lost to mike hughey...

4x4: (64.38), (56.21), 62.08, 56.68, 59.86 = 59.54
stupid super 1s. grhhh
and wow, my 4x4 is only slower than my 4x4 by 23s on average. amazing. that also means i can solve 2.24 3x3s in the same time i solve 4x4...wow.
FML

rachmaninovian said:

and wow, my 4x4 is only slower than my 3x3 by 33s on average.

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Corrected, oui?