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The main page may need some restructuring to make it more easily readable. There is also a lot of wasted space on the right.

Yeah, any ideas? Possibly an intro describing it.

Contents

Hello!

Hi, I'd like to start editing the wiki and have started to do so already fixing small things.

I don't think the main page should be used as an organised Special:AllPages. We can have a link to one of them from the main page, called contents or something. Also, it looks pretty naff with [edit] everywhere. Maybe take a leaf out of wikipedia's book?

You may have noticed that I added a section for external resources. I dunno what to really call it, but I'd like to have like a page for each website with a brief description and a link ot two. I'd like to link to stuff like the IRC channel here aswell.

Also, I'd like to steer us away from being fridrich biased to being a more neutral wiki.

Let me know before I do anything drastic. I'd like to help make this place really good. --Kirjava 18:10, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Syntax

I think that it should be made sure that acronyms such as F2L and PLL etc. are capitalized. Proper grammar and spelling, don't just write "use these algs" but rather "use these algorithms." Exclamation marks!!!!!! Try not to use them. Remain neutral in linking sites, don't excessivly link your own or the one you primarily use. Remain neutral in recommending tutorials (video and text), instead of "Use this tutorial it's the best and easiest to understand by far," rewrite it as "many cubers have found this tutorial most helpful and easy to understand, it can be found here." Use your own discretion on neutrality issues. that's all i can think of now. -T

Futhermore, using the first person tense (I, We) is strongly discouraged, imagine that you're writing the instruction booklet that comes with a Rubik's Brand cube. Using "I" looks sloppy.

Agree

I'd have to agree. All we can do is all try contributing to editing poor grammar and punctuation. It will just take time. -pjk

Main Page Deletion?

Who did this? Was this done for a reason? Wth...

(diff) (hist) . . Main Page‎; 15:30 . . (+546) . . 207.172.183.54 (Talk) (Undo revision 624 by 207.172.183.54 (Talk))
(diff) (hist) . . Main Page‎; 15:22 . . (-546) . . 207.172.183.54 (Talk) (Removing all content from page)
(diff) (hist) . . Main Page‎; 15:22 . . (-1,113) . . 207.172.183.54 (Talk)

I am going to undo the changes from whoever removed all the main page content... someone can undo my undoing if this was actually done for a good reason.

JBCM627 15:47, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Edits

Not sure who or why. We have to keep an eye for people doing things like that.

I think we should start a to-do list that anyone can contribute to: -Make pages that are in red. -Puzzle database? Descriptions of all puzzles? -More pictures. Let's get some decent pics up of the puzzles we are talking about. -Copy cube info (2x2-7x7) from wikipedia -Copy people names -Make descriptions of common things, such as the WCA, what it is, etc.

To-do List

Sounds good- It'd be useful to me because I want to help but I don't know quite where to start, you know? I think quality > quantity at this point is more important. A few good, informative pages with pictures and well written articles would be better than making a page for every puzzle and method in existence. EDIT- we REALLY need a F2L page. That's a lot of information that's lacking. We can also link to VHF2L, ZBF2L, F2LL, MLGS...etc.

I've created a redirect from Todo to the special 'stub' page which lists all pages in need of editing. information can also be directly added to that page to list any further things remaining to do. I've also added some more information about how to begin editing the Wiki on the about page..
-- Cride5 16:35, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Agree

I agree. The front page does need some work. And I do agree we shouldn't be so Fridrich-biased.

A lot of the existing articles on here were copied from the forum. Feel free to edit any article to make it better. There is a lot of work to do in regards to editing, not counting the tons of pages not in existence yet. I figure if we get a solid group of us working on it often, the progress will start adding up fast. Many people here have done a great job on some of the pages.

More pics!

The main page needs pictures of puzzles, no doubt, it would look much nicer then. I think I do a little experiment adding the Pyraminx image to the page as a test... // Kenneth 07:57, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Agree, but I changed the location so it wasn't under "Megaminx" ;) -JBCM627 23:05, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Me too ... Added one to the ZZ Page :-) --Cride5 17:02, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Logo

I uploaded the speedsolving.com forum logo to the wiki and placed it at top of this page (as you all can see =) The Idéa was to make it look to have strong bounds with the mother site. If it wasn't a good idéa, then just remove the image link again. Worst problem is that I wasn't able to meka it work as a banner so you will be redirected to the forums if you click the image, you will be taken to the image page instead. I place a link to the forums there so it is possible to redirect yourself if you try to use it as a banner. // Kenneth 19:29, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Rearrange

I like the new arrangement better. I do plan on reconstructing this homepage and making it blend better with the forums overall soon (probably around Christmas). I also plan to take the index.php? out of links, but not sure if I will be able to. Anyways, nice work. It's looking good.--PJK 23:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. What do you mean by blending with the forums better? qqwref 23:52, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I want to make the header look nearly identical, so you can browse the forum and this freely without noticing a change in the site. I am in the process right now if making a navbar work here, which is much more difficult than it sounds. Anyways, I plan to work on this over the next several days, along with fixing the URL.--PJK 00:33, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


Agreed, reorganisation sounds like a good idea. Something which deffo needs to be sorted out is the potential duplication of info caused by having In 3x3x3 Methods
  • Beginners Methods
and
  • Common Methods - Basic Methods
May I suggest that we completely separate beginner methods and speed solving methods, since they're (for a large part) mutually exclusive. Although some beginner methods are designed for a transition into other more advanced ones, they do have a focus on a reduced number of algs and use of simpler concepts. I was thinking about adding some more detail to the beginner methods. For example:
--Cride5 17:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Major Edits to the Front Page [Aug 2009]

OK, I've finally finished re-structuring the the front page so that it better fits the Speedsolving forums, and has a more logical layout. All methods stuff has been moved to the generic Cubing Methods heading, and a comprehensive table of puzzling methods has been created. I've also fiddled about with some of the method pages, adding to the beginner and BLD methods material. Since its been getting a lot of attention on the Forums, I added a new Puzzle Hardware section, and divided pentrixter's hardware stuff into cubing hardware and other puzzle hardware (the single page was growing rather large). Eventually if these pages grow, it may be an idea to further divide them down into 2x2, 3x3, 4x4+, *minx etc.

Cride5 02:25, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


Puzzle Shops (entitlement to 'advertise')

What's the deal with the puzzle shops list? I noticed PJK removed this link:

@ see this edit . and a few days later it was added again at the top of the list by Regisiew in this edit

It appears there's a conflict of interest going on, and instead of constantly editing the list, it would be nice if it could be resolved on this discussion page. My view on the site is that it certainly isn't popular/well known enough to be at the top of the list, but I don't see any problem with having it there. Any further opinions on this?

-- Cride5 14:45, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Linking of Main Page with Categories

A lot of new categories have been added to organise the content and ensure it is all accessible. Many of the high level categories relate well to the sections in the main page. Where this is the case, the main page section headings have been linked with their categories to allow easy front-page access to all the content. -- Cride5 06:22, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Spammers

The user Midw0rk looks like a spammer. See this edit to the main page. I've undone the edit, but it may be worth banning this user and improving the registration captcha if poss.

-- Cride5 21:16, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

There is yet more spam from User:Swansonucft‎ and User:Odelecpalmeri‎, posting spam on their own user pages. I think security needs to be tightened up for registration to the Wiki. We should maybe look at using a CAPCHA or asking a cubing related question to make sure only genuine cubers sign up.

-- Cride5 14:47, 5 December 2009 (UTC)


Total agreement // Kenneth 17:11, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

New Puzzle Shops Category

The puzzle shops list on the main page is growing a little too large, so I've started a Puzzle Shops page/category, were more puzzle shops can be listed, described in more detail, and hopefully reviewed as well. I propose that only the best/most popular shops should appear on the listing in the front page, to keep clutter to a minimum...

Cride5 23:09, 25 November 2009 (UTC)