Yuxin 17x17x17

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  1. FireCuber

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    Wow....cool! How much do think it is?
     
  2. Tyler Comfy Hat

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    I was just joking around, how should I know?
     
  3. FireCuber

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    Too bad, Do you know of anyone who knows how much it would be?
     
  4. vm70

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    TIME TO BREAK OUT THE MATH (or maths).
    Here's a shot in the dark for you. Please note that I am bad at statistics.
    I looked up all of the WCA products and higher-order cube products YuXin makes on The Cubicle, and gave them each a point on the graph with the y-value being their price in USD. I then found a line of best fit. The best one I found was a polynomial function, with R^2 being 0.988. (R^2 is a value between 0 and 1 that shows how much the trendline correlates with the data. The closer to 1, the better.)

    According to these calculations, the 17x17 that YuXin is releasing will be available on the Cubicle for a whopping price of $393.77 USD. Maybe more, maybe less. This is just an educated guess.

    In comparison, Oskar's 17x17x17 is $275.90 + 6($395.00) = $2645.90 USD. That's about 6.7 times as expensive as my guess for the cube price.
    yuxin17x17.PNG
    For those who don't live in the US, here's the conversions as of typing this. Numbers will most likely not be the actual price.
    $393.77 USD (US Dollars)
    $524.75 CAD (CA Dollars)
    £318.20 (British Pounds)
    ₹25725.11 (Indian Rupees)
    ¥2719.30 (Chinese Yuan)
    ¥44254.24 (Japanese Yen)
    €393.77 (Euro)
    EDIT: add more people wondering what it costs, spelling errors, math errors.
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2017
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  5. Chree

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    Hahaha... epic.
     
  6. Tyler Comfy Hat

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    Very nice, but are you sure the original 11x11 should be counted, considering how much older it is than the rest (and that it very likely isn't even manufactured anymore since the Huanglong)?
     
  7. FireCuber

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    Thanks for all the information guys!! :D
     
  8. vm70

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    That is a good consideration, but The Cubicle still sells (versions of) this cube. Of course, buying the new 11x11 is a much more obvious choice because it's less expensive (except pink stickerless doesn't do justice to me).
    Here's the math without it.
    Taking out the outdated old YuXin 11x11 changes the trendline to 1.655x^2 + 6.976x + 13.299, with an R^2 of 0.986.
    A 17x17 according to this would be $373.01 USD (using ceiling function because of economics). yuxin17x17_v2.PNG
     
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  9. One Wheel

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    If you only use the most recent releases for each value of n there's a nice (albeit short) trendline for 6-11, even layered puzzles above the line and odd layered below it. I'm having trouble crunching the numbers on my phone, but that's another way to look at the data.

    EDIT: my methodology is probably suspect (approximate linear trendline for $/n^2) but here are my predicted prices for hypothetical future yuxin big cube releases:
    12x12: $174
    13x13: $185
    14x14: $240
    15x15: $249
    16x16: $315
    17x17: $325
    18x18: $405
    19x19: $420
    20x20: $510
    21x21: $520
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2017
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  10. Tony Fisher

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  11. Tony Fisher

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    I have confirmation that the 15x15x15 is still being worked on.
     
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