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World Record predictions in the year 2020?

Sajwo

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2x2: 0.49 / 1.45
3x3: 4.48 / 6.04
4x4: 19.22 / 23.80
5x5: 39.88 / 47.69
6x6: 1:24.30 / 1:31.33
7x7: 2:07.43 / 2:15.49
3BLD: 17.93 / 19.89
FMC: 18 / 23.67
OH: 6.59 / 10.43
Feet: 20.57 / 27.95
Mega: 27.70 / 33.34
Pyra: 1.28 / 2.09
Clock: 3.69 / 5.05
Skewb: 1.00 / 2.58
Squan: 5.88 / 8.15
4BLD: 1:33.09
5BLD: 3:47.50
MBLD: 43/44 in 59:04

Slightly unoptimistic in some cases, but meh.

I am pretty sure that most (if not all) of your predictions can happen this or the next year
 
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2x2 - .4x single and low 1 average
3x3 - low 4 single mid 5 average
4x4 - 18 single 22 average
5x5 - 38 single 45 average
6x6 - 1:20 single 1:25 mean
7x7 - 2:05 single 2:10 mean
3x3 BLD - 16 single sub 20 mean
4x4 BLD - 1:30 single
5x5 BLD - Sub 3 single
3x3 OH - Felik's single still reigns supreme low 9 average
3x3 fewest moves - 17 single 23 mean
3x3 w/ feet - sub 20 single 25 mean
Megaminx - sub 29 single and 31 average
Pyraminx - sub 1 single and sub 2 average
Square 1 - low 5 single and low 7 average
Clock - Nathaniel’s wr is supreme and mid 4 average
3x3 multi BLD - 50+ points
 
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This will be my final set of predictions on this thread. This is for the end of 2020.
2x2: 0.45 / 1.31
3x3: 4.29 / 5.60
4x4: 18.27 / 22.22
5x5: 36.14 / 43.63
6x6: 1:14.55 / 1:20.71
7x7: 1:55.00 / 2:03.92
OH: 6.81 / 9.59
Feet: 19.55 / 25.60
FMC: 18 / 23.00
3BLD: 17.05 / 20.34
4BLD: 1:28.59 / (1:48.59)
5BLD: 3:17.22 / (3:55.86)
MBLD: 48/50 in 59:52
Megaminx: 26.44 / 30.15
Pyraminx: 1.20 / 1.99
Skewb: 1.05 / 2.08
Square-1: 5.48 / 7.40
Clock: 3.11 / 4.28

I also predict kilominx will become an official event.
Kilominx: 7.93, 11.37
the amount of cubers will have doubled, which results in the amount of WCA competitors to nearly triple.
For me:
I'll still be cubing and will have competed in all events, but I'll not be in the top 100 for anything. I will probably get around to organizing at least one comp.

E: changed clock average from 3.98 to 4.28. and 3x3 avg from 5.84 to 5.60
 
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This will be my final set of predictions on this thread. This is for the end of 2020.
2x2: 0.45 / 1.37
3x3: 4.29 / 5.84
4x4: 18.27 / 22.22
5x5: 36.14 / 44.63
6x6: 1:17.55 / 1:23.71
7x7: 1:59.00 / 2:07.92
OH: 6.81 / 9.59
Feet: 19.55 / 25.60
FMC: 18 / 23.33
3BLD: 17.05 / 20.34
4BLD: 1:28.59 / (1:48.59)
5BLD: 3:07.22 / (3:35.86)
MBLD: 49/50 in 59:52
Megaminx: 26.44 / 30.15
Pyraminx: 1.20 / 1.99
Skewb: 1.05 / 2.08
Square-1: 5.48 / 7.40
Clock: 3.11 / 3.98

I also predict kilominx will become an official event.
Kilominx: 7.93, 11.37
the amount of cubers will have doubled, which results in the amount of WCA competitors to nearly triple.
For me:
I'll still be cubing and will have competed in all events, but I'll not be in the top 100 for anything. I will probably get around to organizing at least one comp.
I think most of those are possible. To me the OH single is super unlikely as well as the clock single and especially clock average. You have to be pretty dang lucky/fast on clock to get a sub 3 or even low 4 (which is why the WR single has stood for over two years). I think a slightly lower single is possible but I don't think we will see a sub 4 average on clock for a while (if ever)
 

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I think most of those are possible. To me the OH single is super unlikely as well as the clock single and especially clock average. You have to be pretty dang lucky/fast on clock to get a sub 3 or even low 4 (which is why the WR single has stood for over two years). I think a slightly lower single is possible but I don't think we will see a sub 4 average on clock for a while (if ever)
My predictions for clock make the assumption that a better clock will be released by that time. I'll change my prediction for average, as I thought the current WR average was sub-5.
 
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My predictions for clock make the assumption that a better clock will be released by that time. I'll change my prediction for average, as I thought the current WR average was sub-5.
Oh yah I forgot about someone releasing clock although honestly at the pace moyu and qiyi are going they might not release theirs before 2020
 

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This will be my final set of predictions on this thread. This is for the end of 2020.
2x2: 0.45 / 1.37
3x3: 4.29 / 5.84
4x4: 18.27 / 22.22
5x5: 36.14 / 44.63
6x6: 1:17.55 / 1:23.71
7x7: 1:59.00 / 2:07.92
OH: 6.81 / 9.59
Feet: 19.55 / 25.60
FMC: 18 / 23.33
3BLD: 17.05 / 20.34
4BLD: 1:28.59 / (1:48.59)
5BLD: 3:07.22 / (3:35.86)
MBLD: 49/50 in 59:52
Megaminx: 26.44 / 30.15
Pyraminx: 1.20 / 1.99
Skewb: 1.05 / 2.08
Square-1: 5.48 / 7.40
Clock: 3.11 / 4.28

I also predict kilominx will become an official event.
Kilominx: 7.93, 11.37
the amount of cubers will have doubled, which results in the amount of WCA competitors to nearly triple.
For me:
I'll still be cubing and will have competed in all events, but I'll not be in the top 100 for anything. I will probably get around to organizing at least one comp.

E: changed clock average from 3.98 to 4.28.
I find this one of the most reasonable predictions, except a few that I find too optimistic. I don't think such 5x5 single will be achieved, nor the 5BLD. It would be too much improvement over times that are outliers at the moment (PB for Kaijun and very close to PB for Feliks).
 

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Cool, a chance to make less ridiculous predictions than my 2024 ones.

2x2: 0.60/1.32
3x3: 4.36/5.98
4x4: 19.97/23.86
5x5: 43.01/48.66
6x6: 1:30.50/1:39.69
7x7: 2:20.85/2:28.03
3BLD: 17.96/22.40
4BLD: 1:49.70/2:01.23 (4BLD and 5BLD means might be ranked some day)
5BLD: 4:28.67/4:58.76
MBLD: 51 points (bonus: 53/55 in 58:47)
OH: 6.99/9.02
WF: 21.11/25.33
Pyra: 1.12/1.89
Mega: 34.64/40.90
Skewb: 1.15/1.83
Sq-1: 5.95/9.53
Clock: 4.31/5.19
FMC: 19/22.00
Alright, since half of my predictions have already been demolished I'll make some new (final?) ones.

Current world records for reference

2x2: 0.46/1.18 0.49/1.51
3x3: 3.88/5.41 4.73/6.39
4x4: 18.40/22.05 19.36/24.01
5x5: 37.25/44.27 41.27/49.32
6x6: 1:13.90/1:21.55 1:27.85/1:34.68
7x7: 1:58.99/2:08.33 2:14.55/2:18.96
3BLD: 16.20/19.31 18.31/22.67
4BLD: 1:25.10/1:34.80 1:41.90/2:07.83
5BLD: 3:21.76/3:44.02 3:47.50/4:18.76
MBLD: 56 points (58/60 59:57) 41/41 54:14
OH: 6.27/9.12 6.88/10.59
Feet: 18.89/23.48 20.57/28.16
Pyra: 1.12/1.77 1.28/2.14
Mega: 25.09/29.91 29.93/35.15
Skewb: 1.03/1.79 1.10/2.62
Sq-1: 4.16/7.11 5.88/8.45
Clock: 3.69/4.86 3.73/5.23
FMC: 19/22.00 19/24.33
 
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2x2: 0.44/1.05
3x3: 3.8/4.9
4x4: 17/21
5x5: 38-39/45
skewb: 1.0x/2.5
pyra: 0.92/sub-1.90
squan: 5.3/7.9
OH: 6.4/9.xx

The only events I kind of know WRs for because they are the only good events.
If there was a dislike button I would hit it so hard right now >:l
"they are the only good events" someone needs to branch out a little bit
 

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I guess I'll bandwagon. I'm putting names on these, but I think a lot of them will be held by someone who isn't even cubing right now.
2x2: 0.36 (Basil Herold)/1.04 (Nicolas Sanchez)
3x3: 3.67 (Feliks Zemdegs)/5.66 (Feliks Zemdegs)
4x4: 17.38 (Feliks Zemdegs)/23.95 (Max Park)
5x5: 37.80 (Feliks Zemdegs)/45.61 (Feliks Zemdegs)
6x6: 1:20.61 (Feliks Zemdegs)/1:29.98 (Kevin Hays)
7x7: 2:09.63 (Feliks Zemdegs)/2:18.00 (Feliks Zemdegs)
Mega: 28.74 (Yu Da-Hyun)/29.53 (Juan Pablo Huanqui)
Pyra: 0.95 (Daniel Wannamaker)/1.66 (Livia Kleiner)
Skewb: 0.99 (Michał Rzewuski)/2.10 (Jonatan Kłosko)
Squan: 4.20 (me)/7.88 (Sophie Chan)
Clock: 3.00 (Evan Liu)/4.01 (Wojciech Knott)
OH: 5.20 (Feliks Zemdegs)/8.81 (Antione Cantin)
Feet: 16.77 (Jakub Kipa)/24.33 (Jakub Kipa)
FMC: 17 (Kit Clement)/21.00 (Walker Welch)
3BLD: 15.90 (Marcin Kowalczyk)/19.99 (Gianfranco Huanqui)
4BLD: 1:29.40 (Roman Strakhov)
5BLD: 3:54.33 (Roman Strakhov)
MBLD: 57/58 in 1:00:00 (Shivam Bansal)

- Nicolas Sanchez and Chris Tran will work together to create a 2x2 algset known as EGLS (pronounced "eggles") which has you make a face minus one piece and solve the rest in one alg, allowing Nicolas to get a 1.04 official avg
- Feliks still won't react to any of his WRs
- LoLivia will lose her voice before the competition at which she sets Pyra WR, sparing us all
- I will get a 4.20 squan WR single, consisting of a 6 move cubeshape into adj/adj EP, which will be the reason that the squan mininum move count becomes more strict. I will smonk the biggest of weeds after the slove.
- Daniel Wannamaker will get Pyra WR single, then act like it was a terrible solve.
- Shivam's time will run out on his last cube, 2 moves away from being solved.

~Squan minimum move count is tightened to 9 slice moves
~Kilominx won't be an event
~Worlds will have 2.5k competitors
~Clock misalignment penalties will be added
~QiYi will release a Clock (it actually already has a prototype) and will have a similar situation to Squan.
~Squan will become the official name for Square-1
~Kilominx won't be an event
~ColorfulPockets' biggest videos (Things non-cubers say, Worst Judge Ever) and MMAP will fade into obscurity
~RedKB will get an official sub7 3x3 single
woahh some of these have already been beaten
time to redo this

2x2: 0.46 (Antonie Paterakis) 1.02 (Kevin Gerhardt)
3x3: 3.43 (Feliks Zemdegs) 5.35 (Feliks Zemdegs)
4x4: 16.20 (Seung Hyuk Nahm) 19.69 (Sebastian Weyer)
5x5: 36.36 (Feliks Zemdegs) 45.81 (Feliks Zemdegs)
6x6: 1:12.09 (Kevin Hays) 1:19.81 (Feliks Zemdegs)
7x7: 2:02.07 (Feliks Zemdegs) 2:05.11 (Feliks Zemdegs)
3BLD: 14.92 (Kaijun Lin) 18.90 (Gianfranco Huanqui)
FMC: 18 (Mark Boyanowski) 21.67 (Walker Welch)
OH: 4.89 (Antoine Cantin) 8.81 (Max Park)
Feet: 18.14 (Jimin Byeon) 25.34 (Raymond Goslow)
Mega: 26.12 (Juan Pablo Huanqui) 30.10 (Juan Pablo Huanqui)
Pyra: 0.72 (Jules Desjardin) 1.72 (Drew Brads)
Clock: 3.03 (Wojciech Knott) 4.55 (Tairan Zhong)
Skewb: 0.81 (Cale Schoon) 2.21 (Łukasz Burliga)
SQ1: 4.95 (Tommy Szeliga) 7.73 (Firstian Fushada)
4BLD: 1:29.89 (Kaijun Lin)
5BLD: 3:47.50 (Kaijun Lin)
MBLD: 51/53 1:00:02 (Kamil Przybylski)

i'd be surprised if even some of these are close but yeah they're there
i still stand by the fact that a lot of the wrs will be held by people nobody has heard of as of now, for example, 2 years ago nobody would've thought Max Park would break 3x3 WR avg, but he did anyway
 

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woahh some of these have already been beaten
time to redo this

2x2: 0.46 (Antonie Paterakis) 1.02 (Kevin Gerhardt)
3x3: 3.43 (Feliks Zemdegs) 5.35 (Feliks Zemdegs)
4x4: 16.20 (Seung Hyuk Nahm) 19.69 (Sebastian Weyer)
5x5: 36.36 (Feliks Zemdegs) 45.81 (Feliks Zemdegs)
6x6: 1:12.09 (Kevin Hays) 1:19.81 (Feliks Zemdegs)
7x7: 2:02.07 (Feliks Zemdegs) 2:05.11 (Feliks Zemdegs)
3BLD: 14.92 (Kaijun Lin) 18.90 (Gianfranco Huanqui)
FMC: 18 (Mark Boyanowski) 21.67 (Walker Welch)
OH: 4.89 (Antoine Cantin) 8.81 (Max Park)
Feet: 18.14 (Jimin Byeon) 25.34 (Raymond Goslow)
Mega: 26.12 (Juan Pablo Huanqui) 30.10 (Juan Pablo Huanqui)
Pyra: 0.72 (Jules Desjardin) 1.72 (Drew Brads)
Clock: 3.03 (Wojciech Knott) 4.55 (Tairan Zhong)
Skewb: 0.81 (Cale Schoon) 2.21 (Łukasz Burliga)
SQ1: 4.95 (Tommy Szeliga) 7.73 (Firstian Fushada)
4BLD: 1:29.89 (Kaijun Lin)
5BLD: 3:47.50 (Kaijun Lin)
MBLD: 51/53 1:00:02 (Kamil Przybylski)

i'd be surprised if even some of these are close but yeah they're there
i still stand by the fact that a lot of the wrs will be held by people nobody has heard of as of now, for example, 2 years ago nobody would've thought Max Park would break 3x3 WR avg, but he did anyway
Too much faith in Zemdegs? I believe Max Park could wipe out most of his records this year.
 
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woahh some of these have already been beaten
time to redo this

2x2: 0.46 (Antonie Paterakis) 1.02 (Kevin Gerhardt)
3x3: 3.43 (Feliks Zemdegs) 5.35 (Feliks Zemdegs)
4x4: 16.20 (Seung Hyuk Nahm) 19.69 (Sebastian Weyer)
5x5: 36.36 (Feliks Zemdegs) 45.81 (Feliks Zemdegs)
6x6: 1:12.09 (Kevin Hays) 1:19.81 (Feliks Zemdegs)
7x7: 2:02.07 (Feliks Zemdegs) 2:05.11 (Feliks Zemdegs)
3BLD: 14.92 (Kaijun Lin) 18.90 (Gianfranco Huanqui)
FMC: 18 (Mark Boyanowski) 21.67 (Walker Welch)
OH: 4.89 (Antoine Cantin) 8.81 (Max Park)
Feet: 18.14 (Jimin Byeon) 25.34 (Raymond Goslow)
Mega: 26.12 (Juan Pablo Huanqui) 30.10 (Juan Pablo Huanqui)
Pyra: 0.72 (Jules Desjardin) 1.72 (Drew Brads)
Clock: 3.03 (Wojciech Knott) 4.55 (Tairan Zhong)
Skewb: 0.81 (Cale Schoon) 2.21 (Łukasz Burliga)
SQ1: 4.95 (Tommy Szeliga) 7.73 (Firstian Fushada)
4BLD: 1:29.89 (Kaijun Lin)
5BLD: 3:47.50 (Kaijun Lin)
MBLD: 51/53 1:00:02 (Kamil Przybylski)

i'd be surprised if even some of these are close but yeah they're there
i still stand by the fact that a lot of the wrs will be held by people nobody has heard of as of now, for example, 2 years ago nobody would've thought Max Park would break 3x3 WR avg, but he did anyway
I doubt the 3bld single from kaijun. Ishaans uwr is a 15 so if anyone is going to get it then it will be him but I doubt anything sub 15
 
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