One-Answer Other Question Thread

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  1. obelisk477

    obelisk477 Member

    sometimes, on old tutorials with people who don't use standard notation, " Ri " will mean Right - inverted, which is the same thing as R' (R prime)
     
  2. #CubingForPeace

    #CubingForPeace Member

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    My cross takes average moves of ~10,while f2l takes around ~30-32moves.I know complete 2 look OLL and 14 plls but I normally don't use R perms in solves.
    Can anyone suggest now if I'm still making a mistake thus raising the movecount to ~75 moves or it is normal??????
     
  3. AlphaSheep

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    It's normal. I can't remember the exact numbers, but you can save something like 18 moves by learning full 2LLL (that is all 57 OLLs + 21 PLLs). That will get you to 55-60 moves, which is perfectly normal.
     
  4. #CubingForPeace

    #CubingForPeace Member

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    Thanks AlphaSheep.
    Well, what would be the average movecount after learning full PLL but still using 2 look OLL?
     
  5. #CubingForPeace

    #CubingForPeace Member

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    Anyone having a quick answer?please?
     
  6. PurpleBanana

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    I think the efficiency difference between full OLL and 2L OLL is about 7 or 8 moves.
     
  7. #CubingForPeace

    #CubingForPeace Member

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    Thanks
     
  8. Carlo.Diyan_109

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    hi guys,
    im having trouble increasing my left hands tps, it can't catch up with my right hand
    any suggestions?? thankyou
     
  9. JustinTimeCuber

    JustinTimeCuber Member

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    the average movecount for OLL according to the speedsolving wiki is 9.8 moves
    For EOLL, there are 4 options:
    skip: .125 chance, 0 moves, .125x0=0
    2flip: .75 chance, 6 moves, .75x6=4.5
    4flip: .125 chance, 11 moves, .125*11=1.375
    0+4.5+1.375 = 5.875 which rounds to 5.9
    OCLL according to the wiki is 7.9 moves on average
    5.9+7.9=13.8

    tl;dr:
    2-look OLL takes 13.8 moves
    1-look OLL takes 9.8 moves
    Most people don't use many left-handed algs, the main uses for LH are simple flicks, including U', U2'; and L moves. Practice making sure those are smooth until you can speed up.
     
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  10. #CubingForPeace

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    Thanks JustinTimeCuber.
    Thats really great!!
    So its not much worth learning full OLL as it saves just 4 moves.
     
  11. AlphaSheep

    AlphaSheep Member

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    Almost. Add a chance for an AUF in the middle (less than 0.75 because H OCLL is symmetric and skips don't need an extra AUF)
     
  12. obelisk477

    obelisk477 Member

    You should also be able to knock 4 or so moves off of your cross if it averages 10 moves
     
  13. #CubingForPeace

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    That's a bit tedious for a cuber like me with just 5 months of cubing experience ,Ao100 of 52.53s and PB of 34.23s
    But I'll try to atleast knock off 2-3 moves.
     
  14. obelisk477

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    Yeah, best advice for that is to just make sure you're using the full 15 seconds of inspection to try and plan out the shortest possible cross. Eventually that average will drop. And shorter crosses lead to seeing the first F2L pair easier, so it makes the next step easier as well
     
  15. PurpleBanana

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    The main problem is not the 4 moves, it's the pause. 2 look OLL is much slower because you have to stop in the middle and recognize OCLL.
     
  16. #CubingForPeace

    #CubingForPeace Member

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    Thats worth just a few seconds(for,me at least).I have tried to find out the time difference between 1 look OLL and 2 look OLL and according to me,learning 45 more algs will hardly save me 6-7 seconds(for now).

    But I'll surely learn full OLL after I become sub-20.
     
  17. aybuck37

    aybuck37 Member

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    For feet can you move the cube off the stackmat mat?
     
  18. PurpleBanana

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    A few seconds is a lot.
     
  19. #CubingForPeace

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    Hey,I said that I don't care about those few seconds. Those are not important to cubers(me) with 52 seconds average.
    These 'few' seconds are really worth after goin' sub-30 or sub-20.
     

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