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Discussion in 'General Speedcubing Discussion' started by MarcelP, Jun 22, 2012.

  1. newtonbase

    newtonbase Premium Member

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    I had 30 mins which was enough for 2 safe solves. First was 13:33 I think. Really solid memo but 2 wings off as I lost track of what I'd done (it may have been correct but I "fixed" it) then I twisted a corner the wrong way. Second solve I went even slower. Memo very solid again but during centre execution I realised I'd got the same letter twice so had ended a cycle early. I tried to fix it and did get close but it took ages and I knew I had to rush to finish. During wings I did an R move wrong so half of them plus corners were wrong. I had 3 or 4 seconds to spare at the end.
    MBLD practice starts today. I have 8 cubes already scrambled for an attempt during my lunch break. Bit of an experiment that may go badly wrong as previous biggest attempt was 6. First attempt since WSM in November.
     
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    That went better than expected. 6/8 44:57 (32:26). Forgot to do parity alg on cube 1 and missed a word on cube 7 (missed it in review as well), plus twisted a corner the wrong way on same cube (execution error). Really happy with the strength of memo and pretty sure I could do 10 in an hour quite comfortably.

    I was wrong about my last attempt as it was in January not last November. Poor memory :).
     
  3. mitja

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    Congrats to all you guys for great results. Amazing BLD there
    I went to our nationals, 4BLD was DNF by 2 wrong wings and the time limit of 45 minutes was only enough for 2 attempts. 5BLD was also too much for me. The schedule was at strange hours, I was just too tired. I did the memo but too slow, when i saw only 6 minutes to the end, i quitted.
    5x5 was PB 2:20 but not enough for 2:00 time limit, so no average for me( we have heavy cutoffs). 3BLD was 3 DNF, 8:30 in the morning is just too early for me.
    3x3 was only one sub 20s, but still OK.
    4x4 was 1:09 average 2s above PB
    overall I am still satisfied
     
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  4. bubbagrub

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    OK... I'm going to have another go at 4BLD, having tried once a long while ago and given up. I think I'm roughly ok with the idea of U2 / r2 / OP as my approach, and have had a first go at writing out a memo for a scramble.

    Here's the scramble I'm trying:

    Rw' L Uw2 Fw B' F Rw Fw2 B F D' F Fw' R2 U' R F' Rw' B' Uw2 R' Rw2 F2 R2 Fw D Rw2 R' Uw' D F2 B U2 B2 R' Rw' B2 Fw' R2 U

    To make things easier I'm using scrambling orientation -- no initial rotations. That gives me two good centres on L, two on U, and one on each of the other faces, which seems ok.

    If someone who uses Speffz with U2, r2 and OP has the time and inclination, I wonder if they'd be willing to check I'm getting the memo right? Here's what I have:

    Centres: ID QJ MV RW FX GN KP T
    Corners: FK XO LB M
    Wings: QJ TC VW XP GL JK NH KR OB DS IM R

    Thanks!
     
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  5. h2f

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    Better than mine 6/9. Congrats! :)
     
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  6. newtonbase

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    Looks correct to me. Personally I would not start a wings cycle with K as its not a nice target to do twice. Is this your normal memo order? What order do you execute
     
  7. newtonbase

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    Thanks. What was your time?
     
  8. h2f

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    49:04 with 40 minutes memo.
     
  9. bubbagrub

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    Thanks for checking! I actually don't know what my order should be yet... I gather it's sensible to execute centres first since some of the later stuff might not be centre-safe. So I'm thinking I'll do it as: wings, corners, centres, centres, corners, wings. Is that what you do? Or maybe I should execute corners first, like I do for 3BLD?

    Ah... the reason I started that cycle with K was because I got confused -- it wasn't a conscious choice... :) But good point -- I'll aim to avoid starting cycles with U / D layer wings.
     
  10. mark49152

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    Definitely centres first - you're correct, OP is not centre safe and nor are wing parity algs. Also, OP swaps two dedges when there's parity. The easiest exec order to get right is centres, wings, corners.
     
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  11. newtonbase

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    Much faster execution than me. I was slightly hindered as most of mine had never been solved and were far too loose but I can't see myself getting down to 1 min per cube like you.

    @bubbagrub I memo corners wings then centres and execute the opposite way. Where there is corner parity I switch UB and UL wings in memo to avoid a parity alg.
     
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  12. bubbagrub

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    Mind: blown! Does that work for all bld parities? If so, I can avoid learning the wing-parity alg...
     
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  13. chtiger

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    Been awhile since I've posted anything. I still try to keep up with the thread though. I had a comp this weekend too, so I'll throw my results here with the rest.
    http://cubecomps.com/live.php?cid=2958&compid=19
    Nothing great, only thing I was happy with was sub 2:00 BLD (which doesn't seem like much compared to Mark's sub 1:00's), and a 12:32 4BLD. First 4BLD attempt was 11:19 and off by two centers. Clock avg was fine for 2 rounds, PB in the 2nd, but I was hoping for better (sub 9). Only other PB was pyra single. MBLD was close to being good, 5/8 with all the misses by 3 corners. 6/8 would have been PB. Lots of bad solves and mistakes in the other events, dumbest one was in square-1, I couldn't get cube shape because it wouldn't turn where I thought it should, eventually realized I didn't orient it before I started, so it was upside down.
     
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  14. newtonbase

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    Not, it's just corner parity that you avoid. Wing parity alg is a bit of a pain but not terrible
     
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    Well done. Especially in BLD (because nothing else really matters .
     
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  16. mark49152

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  17. newtonbase

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    Great results. Sub 1 mean next comp!
     
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  18. openseas

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    Great job!

    Interesting, you review each memo before moving to next. 2nd one was, 10a corner memo, (review 1-2s), 15s edge memo (~2s review), then execution. Is it your normal procedure? Or safety measure for comps?
     
  19. pglewis

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    Did an Ao50 as a check-in today. I don't really track those often, I'm not out to drop it a few tenths, more interested in when I'm comfortably set to get it sub 25. Still not quite there, still bleeding too much in mistake solves with botched crosses, clobbering solved pairs, CFOOOP solves, etc. Not too far off now though, the meat of the bell curve is glacially moving the right direction. Full OLL continues to pay off more as my recognition improves and some recent F2L refinements are starting to pay dividends.

    ao50.jpg
     
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  20. h2f

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    Nice edge comms including S moves - congrats.
    4bld - wow. And sub2 3bld. Congrats!
     
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