New 2015 WCA Regulations (Effective July 1, 2015)

Discussion in 'WCA Regulations' started by Kit Clement, Jun 25, 2014.

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  1. Ranzha

    Ranzha Friendly, Neighbourhoodly Staff Member

    Let me get this straight.

    You don't like stickerless cubes.
    If they were allowed, you'd feel obligated to get something you don't like instead of sticking with what you do like.
    You feel this obligation because you feel the advantage isn't necessarily negligible.

    Remember what cube the 7.08 WR was set with more than six years ago. Now think of the difference between 7.08 seconds and 5.55 seconds. Now consider the advancements in cube hardware over that time.
    I'm not one to say "it's the cuber, not the cube", but a lot of it is the cuber and how well the cuber's style matches the capabilities of the cubes the cuber picks.
    Use what best suits your style, case closed.
     
  2. TMOY

    TMOY Member

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    You're not forced to do everything the majority does, you know.
     
  3. Sweshiman

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    When will the new rules be implemented?
     
  4. CiaranBeahan

    CiaranBeahan Member

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    Would bad stickers on cubes be legal? I know that the WCA has banned badly stickered cubes because you can reach your hand around the other side of the cube and feel the shape of the sticker identifying which piece it is.
    It's just a suggestion to a new rule. Making badly stickered cube legal.
     
  5. shadowkiller168

    shadowkiller168 Premium Member

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    I don't think that would be a good idea. Also consider that many people use how much of one color they see to determine a +2.

    With the exception of BLD, I would like to know exactly why anyone would want to actually use a poorly stickered cube. Wouldn't seeing more of one color per cubie help recognition?
     
  6. ~Adam~

    ~Adam~ Member

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    Laziness and/or no stickers.
     
  7. Ranzha

    Ranzha Friendly, Neighbourhoodly Staff Member

    Or it doesn't impair recognition. I remember going ages without replacing stickers, and I found I was slower with new stickers.
     
  8. Chree

    Chree Member

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    And mild OCD/extreme sentimentality. For a long time I was obsessed with preserving the original stickers on all my cubes. Thankfully, that has passed.
     
  9. Wait so is stickerless gonna be allowed? Because I accidentally ordered a stickerless instead of white Guhong v2 for feet, I need to know if I should keep it or not.
     
  10. phasornc

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    One more wrinkle to the stickerless cube question. My son is red/green colorblind and with certain stickerless cubes can't tell two sides apart. He often gets out a sharpie and puts a dot in the middle of each square on one of the problematic sides. Since rule 3d1 states "Exception: Competitors with a medically documented visual disability may use textured puzzles with different textures on different faces. Textures/patterns must be uniform per face," I take this to mean that placing a dot made by a sharpie in the middle of each square of one face qualifies as a "uniform" "pattern", and that should be legal for competition? Any thoughts or alternative interpretation?
     
  11. ~Adam~

    ~Adam~ Member

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    I know it costs more but you could swap the red or green side out for black from another cube.
     
  12. Berd

    Berd Member

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    Or sticker/tile it with distinguishable shades. Defeats the point of it being stickerless but it works :)
     
  13. Dene

    Dene Premium Member

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    I wouldn't allow this, as per: 3d2) The colours of puzzles must be solid, with one uniform colour per face. Each colour on the puzzle must be clearly distinct from the other colours.

    3d1 is designed to allow competitors to use something like different shaped stickers.

    Of course, at this stage stickerless cubes are still not allowed. Whether there are changes to 3d in the future is another question.
     
  14. Soooooo... last chance. Are we allowing stickerless puzzles in 2015? :)
     
  15. AustinReed

    AustinReed Member

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    Refer to OP and this:

     
  16. theZcuber

    theZcuber Premium Member

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    I think the colour is more a thing for the scramblers and judges. I (personally) don't see a problem with what he described, since there is still both red and green sides
     
  17. I know, but we need carefully written regulations in time, or else it isn't going to happen.
     
  18. Dene

    Dene Premium Member

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    I also don't have a problem with it. But it's not up to me, the regulations are clear on the matter. I already put forward my opinion to Lucas that the regulations should be changed to allow such a thing.
     
  19. Rubiks560

    Rubiks560 Nub

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    The regs likely won't be posted immediately. Patience.
     
  20. Kit Clement

    Kit Clement Premium Member

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    I was hoping there would be an official decision/announcement about this, but clearly, 2015 regulations won't be announced today. They would have been severely rushed if we did that, and given what happened last year, that's not what we want. Decisions will be presented to delegates to review/vote, and after that, we will release new regulations. I don't have an official timeline for this yet.
     

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