Cubing with Anthony: How to Learn PLL/OLL/ZBLL

Discussion in 'How-to's, Guides, etc.' started by Anthony, Feb 22, 2017.

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  1. Thecuberrr

    Thecuberrr Member

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    Like this video :)
     
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  2. GenTheThief

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    I plan on learning ZBLL, and have learned some, though most of the 60-70ish cases that I know are just COLLs that I know skip.
    The other cases are mostly T/U 2GLLs and really easy block cases. (eg: Case 13 on algdb.net. It's the standard T->COLL-skip case but with the 2x2 block on the wrong side, so it won't skip EPLL too)
    I found learning the couple cases with 2x2 or 1x1x3 blocks pretty easy, as recognition couldn't be a problem.
    I do think that brute-learning ZBLLs set by set is a good way to do it also though. I hopefully will start doing it that way when I have more free time.

    I only watched the ZBLL part, but great video!

    E: Maybe I'm just blind, but I don't see any ZBLL algorithms on andy's site.
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2017
  3. Anthony

    Anthony Professional Speedcuber

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    They're on my site. Link in the description.
     
  4. Mastermind2368

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    Back when I used CFOP, how I Learned OLL was learning it in a way easy to memo. I uses Badmephisto's algs and I know they are bad, but they are easy to memo because of the way they are sorted. http://badmephisto.com/oll.php. It was so easy for me to learn, I learned them in under 15 days.
     
  5. Juliette Sébastien

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    The last 3 month, I learned the entire T, U sets and half of the L set of ZBLL, but I went over the cases very quickly without practicing them much, so I forgot some algs and I still have trouble to recognise some of them quickly (which explains why my 3x3 times at my last comp were so bad).
    My next comp (French championship) is in 2 weeks, do you think I should practice them in order to be able to use them offically or just give up for this comp and practice some other events ?
    Note : I also learned OH algs for the cases that have a bad execution for OH, and I actually prefere Jabari's algs for both 3x3 and OH. And this : http://bestsiteever.ru/zbll/ is also a great place to practice ZBLL
     
  6. Anthony

    Anthony Professional Speedcuber

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    I'd suggest focusing on one set for the next two weeks (either T or U) so that it's usable in comp. If you try to get it all down in such a short span of time it probably won't go well (speaking from experience... I've had a lot of comps like your last one haha.)
     
  7. efattah

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    Anthony is surely the authority on this but I can offer some advice. In the last 12 months I have learned 250 of the 776 LMCF 3x3 set and I have found that slide show drilling is really the best option, hours and hours of drills and very little real solving of cubes. Also I recommend using my Reverse Scrambler utility so you can recognize and solve the cases on a real cube instead of on your computer screen:
    https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/...ng-utility-available-reverse-scrambler.64265/
     
  8. Juliette Sébastien

    Juliette Sébastien Member

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    Thanks to both of you for replying.
    I think I'll actually focus on all cases excepted the last ones I have learnt, the ones with adjacent colors (I don't know how they are called) because the COLL alg is already fast and I find them difficult to recognize. I already have been practicing half of the other cases so I think it will be fine
    Yeah, I do that already with ZBLL trainer but I'll definitely check your utility whenever I'll need it for other algs sets! (although I'm not sure it will work on a Mac)
     

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