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Faz must be cheating

r_517

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This is NOT written by me. I just translate it to minimise the language barrier :p

I saw this ridiculous article this morning on mf8. It really made me LOL, ROFL, LMFAO:D

OK here comes the article.

yangzhengbao said:
http://bbs.mf8.com.cn/viewthread.php?tid=56643&extra=&page=1
Topic: Feliks avg8.52 with scrambles. It's not fair at all.
Text: 1. B2 F2 U' F2 D F2 R2 D' B2 F L2 F U B2 L B D2 R2 B U'
2. B' U2 F2 L2 D2 U2 R' U' R B2 F D2 R' U L B' R'
3. B' L2 F' R2 F' U2 L2 F2 R2 B' U L F2 D L2 U B F2 R2 B2 U'
4. F2 L D2 B2 R B2 F2 U2 R B2 R F R2 F2 U' B' F2 R U2 B' R'
5. R D2 R F2 R F2 R' D2 U2 F2 D2 R2 B' R' F2 U' L R2 F2 L D'

To those who thought he's colour netural, try these:
1.B' F' L R2 B2 R' B2 R B' F L R B2 U2 B L B U' R B D2 R' D2 B R'
2.L2 U' L' R2 B L2 R2 F' L F' U2 B F2 R2 U2 B L R2 U R2 D2 F2 L U2 L2
3.F' L U F2 R2 B' F U L2 B2 F D' L B F2 D2 L B2 D U' L' D2 F2 D' U
4.L' F2 D' U L' R F2 D' U' L' F2 L B' F2 L R D' U B F2 D' B' U' B F
5.F2 L2 R2 D L F2 L' D' L R' F' U2 R2 F2 L R' U' F2 R D L D2 F2 R D
6.U' L R' U F' L2 R' B F D' U' L R2 U2 B D' L F D2 U F' L' D' U' L'
7.D U2 B2 F L' R' B' R' D' R D' B F' D' U2 F2 D U2 F' R2 B' R2 U2 L2 B
8.D U R2 B' F D' U L' R' D' L2 R' D2 U B' U' L2 R B2 F R2 B' F' D2 U'
9.B F L' R' B D' L' R' D2 L R2 D L' B' F2 U L2 B2 F2 R2 F2 L' U R2 B2
10.D U2 B2 D2 U' F' D2 U' F L R' U2 B2 L2 R2 D' F' L' U R' D2 U2 B2 F' L

The scrambles above are chosen randomly. Even if we are colour neutral, you can see if you can solve the Cross in 3 steps.
Suppose there is 1 out of 10 scrambles whose Cross can be solved in 3steps, this means the possibility is 1/10. If there are straight 2 scrambles like this, the possibility is 1/10×1/10=1%.
Besides this, these scrambles are so easy that 99 out of 100 people would solve the cross in the same way. This means 99 people will face the same F2L.
Moreover, the F2L were very easy, so easy that 90 people would solve them in the same way.

9.36, (14.11), 8.02, 8.19, (7.94)
If you let him solve the first one in 8 seconds, there was little possibility.

Except the worst one, there were 4 scrambles remained. There were 2 of them which I suspected he cheated.

The average of 5 like this is NOT reliable. The reliable one should be avg of 10.
Because there will not be so many good lucks in 10 solves (I strongly suspect he must be cheating!)
Let him solve 5 out of 10 under 8.2s!
This means, you need fewer steps and 5 lucky scrambles to make him solve them in 8.2s. If he's not cheating, then it's impossible!

How to make the comp more fair!
I came across with a way:

Make a database which everybody approves. There should be 10-100 thousand scrambles in it. Only an approved database is fair!
In this database, there shouldn't be any scramble whose Cross can be solved in 3 steps.

We need cautious scrambles to those who rank top 500. We need an approved database. Why not use it?

The approved database will make those sub15 cubers not only see the new world record, but also convince them wholeheartedly.
 
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Whyusosrs?

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LOL. He got lucky on 2 scrambles. Every other competitor had the same chance to get lucky scrambles. Don't be hatin.
 

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really really jealous LOL

and tell him that he doesn't need an "approved" database, he just need more practice and less hate :p
 
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Whyusosrs?

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You know. Now that I read this again, I believe this guy. Can't wait to see what faz says, that cheater. [/sarcasm]
 

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Here's what I think
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Because the 90 people do the easy F2L the same way because of the 3 move cross that everyone does the same way because they're color neutral and so it's lucky and it shouldn't count because the format for the event is wrong and everyone will do a lucky case so make a scramble database so the sub 15 people have to solve long crosses so the scrambles are harder and you get a more true time and stuff but do an average of ten so things work better. Also faz is a cheater. Therefore we should not allow him to cheat.
 

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Wouldn't giving the sub 15 people a hard cross be unfair for the people that aren't sub 15? Since now they have an advantage. ANYONE NOT SUB 15 IS A CHEATER BECAUSE THEY HAVE EASIER CROSS *spit flying from mouth in complete outrage at this cheating*
 

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Wouldn't giving the sub 15 people a hard cross be unfair for the people that aren't sub 15? Since now they have an advantage. ANYONE NOT SUB 15 IS A CHEATER BECAUSE THEY HAVE EASIER CROSS *spit flying from mouth in complete outrage at this cheating*

yes i'm so glad that i haven't been sub15 yet:D
 

daniel0731ex

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hey i know him! he's the guy who copied off the 8355 method and claimed that it's his own method.
 

MiloD

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faz has been dealing with this since he first started cubing...
 
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