[Review] Pillowed V-Cube 4x4x4

LNZ said:

Then X-Cube 4 creator XB27 put the full "pi" mod built into his cube.

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My modification is totally different from Pi's mod. There's no need to explain more.

xb27 said:

My modification is totally different from Pi's mod. There's no need to explain more.

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Not totally, it uses the same idea. Some fixed non-rotating anchor of sorts to pull the layers along. In Pi's pin-mod it was a pin attached to a non-rotating screw/rivet. In yours it just split the center piece into a rotating part and a non-rotating part with a 'pin'/anchor sticking out.

Let's all make a big deal out of this

Face it, you all (almost all) want a better speedcube no matter what. For those that feel bad about buying KO's and are angered by other's buying KO's you feel it is immoral. I think it would be stupid for V-cube to release the V-4 with their original patented design. They take forever to release new products so why would they release something that would be crap?

From what I heard xb27 said it was okay for other companies to incorporate the x-cube core mech. I might be wrong but hey that's word of mouth.

izovire said:

They take forever to release new products so why would they release something that would be crap?

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I thought that you of all people would have tried a V-3 =P

xb27 have the patent of this design(at least in Taiwan).
here is the links
http://bbs.mf8-china.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=95024&page=4#pid1695203

LNZ said:

"MasterNZ" .

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You know that's Dene

great video none the less.

MeMyself&Pi - 1:54.11 4x4 mo2 (unofficial) V-cube 4 review

Lol Brest!

omg Brest plz.

My vision comes to life! hahaha

Brest said:

MeMyself&Pi - 1:54.11 4x4 mo2 (unofficial) V-cube 4 review

Spoiler: Reconstructions

Spoiler: Video

[youtubehd]i0bD_GYRYq4[/youtubehd]

Spoiler: 1:55.88

centres
2l' z' U 2r' z U 2r // yellow
z' y U 2l 2l2' U2 2r z' x2 U' 2l2' y' F 2r U2 2r' // white
y' x' U2 2l2' U' 2r2 // orange
x2' U2 2r' x U2 2l x' U 2r2 U 2r2' // blue
2l' U2 2l' 2l2 // red / green
edges
z U' R' // WB
y' z2 R' y L' U L // WO
z2' L' U2 L 2u // GR
y' z2 L' U2 L // YG
x2 L' U2 L // GO
R U2' R' 2u' // YO / RB
y' x' R' U y2 z' R U' R' 2u' // WR (WG)
y2 U' L' U L 2u z2 y R 2u' // WG
z2 y L' U L 2u // YB
z' U 2r z R U 3l' U R' U' R y 2r' // YR / OB
3x3x3
x2 R2 U' y x' R 3r' U' 3r U2 x' // white cross
y' U R U R' U y R U R' // wRB
y' U2 L' U L U y' R U R' // wGO
y U2' R U R' L U L' // wGR
y2 L U' L' y2' U2 R U2' R' U R U' R' // wOB
U2' x' 2r2 U2 x U2 2l U2 2r' U2 2r U2 x U2 2r U2 2r' x' U2 2r2' x // O-parity
L y' R U R' U' F' // EO
y U' R' U2' R2 U R2' U R2 U2' R' // CO (CP)
y U L' U L' U' L' U' L' U L U L2 // EPLL
View at alg.garron.us

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[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
[COLOR="red"]Total	115.88	176	1.52	290	2.50	[/COLOR]	[B][SIZE="4"]%[/SIZE]
							Step		Time	STM	ETM[/B]
F2C	8.74	16	1.83	27	3.09		F2C/Centres	48%	50%	52%
L4C	9.51	16	1.68	25	2.63		L4C/Centres	52%	50%	48%
[COLOR="blue"]Centres	18.25	32	1.75	52	2.85		Centres/Redux	24%	37%	31%[/COLOR]

[COLOR="blue"]Edges	57.86	54	0.93	116	2.00		Edges/Redux	76%	63%	69%[/COLOR]

[COLOR="blue"]Redux	76.11	86	1.13	168			Redux/Total	66%	49%	58%[/COLOR]

Cross+1	9.64	15	1.56	28	2.90		Cross+1/F2L	44%	33%	41%
F2L	22.05	45	2.04	69	3.13		F2L/3x3x3	55%	50%	57%
LL	17.72	45	2.54	53	2.99		LL/3x3x3	45%	50%	43%
[COLOR="blue"]3x3x3	39.77	90	2.26	122	3.07	[/COLOR]	[COLOR="blue"]3x3x3/Total	34%	51%	42%[/COLOR]

Spoiler: View as executed

centres
2l' z' U 2r' z U 2r // yellow
z' x' y z U 2l 2l2' U2 2r z' x2 U' 2l2' y' F 2r U2 2r' // white
(y' x) x2' U2 2l2' U' 2r2 // orange
x2' U2 2r' x U2 2l x' U 2r2 U 2r2' // blue
2l' U2 2l' 2l2 // red / green
edges
z U' R' // WB
y' z z R' y L' U L // WO
z' z' L' U2 L z 2r // GR
z' y' z2 L' U2 L // YG
y' z2 y L' U2 L // GO
y y' R U2' R' z' 2r' // YO / RB
x' z y' x y' x U' (x' y') U (x z') x' y' z y' y' R U' R' (x y) 2r' // WR (WG)
z' z' y y' z y U' L' U L z 2r z' x' y' z x' y' x x' y' x x y' x' z' R z x2' x y' x z' 2r' // WG
z y L' U L z 2r' (2r 2l) // YB
z' y x y' z' U U' x' y' U 2r z R U 3l' U R' U' R' R2 y F' F 2r 2r2' // YR / OB
3x3x3
z' x' y' x' R2 x' x U' y z' U x' y' x' x 3r' U' 3r U2 x' // white cross
U y' R U R' U y R U R' // wRB
y' U U L' U L U y' R R' R U R' // wGO
y2 U' U' y' R U R' L U L' // wGR
y y 3r' 3r L U' L' y' U2 y' R U2' R' U R' R2 U' R' // wOB
U' U' x' 2r' 2r3 U2 x U2 2l U2 2r' U2 2r U2 x U2 2r U2 2r' x' U2 2r2' x // O-parity
L y' R U R' y U' L' // EO
U' R' U2' R2 U R2' U R2 U2' R' // CO (CP)
U y L' U L' U' L' U' L' U L U L2 // EPLL
View at alg.garron.us

Spoiler: 1:52.34

centres
U 2l' z U2' 2l' y 2r // white
z y' U 2l' U' 2l z' x U 2l U2 2r' // yellow
y' U' 2l' // green
x3' 2l2' U2 2l2 U 2r2 U 2r2' // red
U 2r U' 2r' U' 2l' U' 2l // blue / orange
edges
U' R' // WR
y U' R U' R' // YO
y2 U2' L' U L 2u' // OB
L' U' L // WO
y' z2 R U2' R' // YG
y2 L' U' L 2u // WG
z y' R' z2 y R U 3l' U R' U' R y' 2r' // WB / YB
z' y' R U R' // RB
y2 L' U L 2u // YR
z' U 2r z R U 3l' U R' U' R y 2r' // GO / GR
3x3x3
z' y L' F U' x R' F2 x' L' U' L z' // white cross
U R U' R' // wGR
y' U R U R' U' R U R' U' R U R' // wRB
U L' U' L y' U' L' U L // wGO
U R U R' U' R U R' U' R U R' // wOB
U' x' 2R2 U2 x U2 2L U2 2R' U2 2R U2 x U2 2R U2 x' 2L' x' U2 2R2 x // pure O-parity
y' L2' 3u L' U L' U' L' L2 3u' L2' y' L L2' U L // PLL
View at alg.garron.us

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[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
[COLOR="red"]Total	112.34	168	1.50	270	2.40	[/COLOR]	[B][SIZE="4"]%[/SIZE]
							Step		Time	STM	ETM[/B]
F2C	10.67	16	1.50	29	2.72		F2C/Centres	50%	43%	56%
L4C	10.67	21	1.97	23	2.16		L4C/Centres	50%	57%	44%
[COLOR="blue"]Centres	21.34	37	1.73	52	2.44		Centres/Redux	30%	42%	33%[/COLOR]

[COLOR="blue"]Edges	50.72	52	1.03	105	2.07		Edges/Redux	70%	58%	67%[/COLOR]

[COLOR="blue"]Redux	72.06	89	1.24	157	2.18		Redux/Total	64%	53%	58%[/COLOR]

Cross+1	4.60	14	3.04	29	6.30		Cross+1/F2L	33%	29%	43%
F2L	13.88	49	3.53	68	4.90		F2L/3x3x3	34%	62%	60%
LL	26.40	30	1.14	45	1.70		LL/3x3x3	66%	38%	40%
[COLOR="blue"]3x3x3	40.28	79	1.96	113	2.81	[/COLOR]	[COLOR="blue"]3x3x3/Total	36%	47%	42%[/COLOR]

Spoiler: View as executed

centres
U 2l' z U U2' U' 2l' y 2r' 2r2 // white
z' (z' x') y' x y x (z' y') z' U 2l' U' 2l' 2l2 z' x U 2l U2 2r' // yellow
y' U' 2l' // green
x2' x' 2l2' U2 2l2 U 2r' 2r3 U 2r 2r3' // red
U 2r U' 2r' U' 2l' U' 2r' (2r 2l) // blue / orange
edges
y' z' x' (x' y') y' x' y' x (z x') z U' R' // WR
y U' R U' R' // YO
y U' y U' L' U L z 2r' // OB
z' z z' L' U' L // WO
y' z2 y y' R U2' R' // YG
y y y' y L' U' L z 2l // WG
z y' (z' y') U' (x' y') (y x) U R' (x' y') z R U 3l' U R' U' R' R2 z' y' x 2r' // WB / YB
z' y y2' R' R2 U R' // RB
y z' z y L' U L z 2r' 2r2 // YR
x' x' y' (x z) (x' y) y' U 2r z R U 3l' U R' U' R y 2r 2r2' // GO / GR
3x3x3
z' x U2 U x' y x U x' U' x R' x U2 x' z' (y' x) x' z L' U' L' L2 z' // white cross
U R' R2 U' R' // wGR
y' U R U R' U' R' R2 U R' U' R U R' // wRB
U L' U' L y' U' L' U L // wGO
y U y' R' R2 U R' U' R' R2 U R' U' R U R' // wOB
U' x' 2r2 R2' U2 x U2 L' 2l U2 2r' R U2 2r R' U2 x U2 2r R' U2 x' L 2l' x' U2 2r2' R2 x // pure O-parity
y' L2' 3u L' U L' U' L' L2 3u' L2' y' L L2' U L // PLL
View at alg.garron.us

Spoiler: Statistics

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Mean (2/2)

[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
[COLOR="red"]Total	114.11	172.00	1.51	280.00	2.45	[/COLOR]	[B][SIZE="4"]%[/SIZE]
							Step		Time	STM	ETM[/B]
F2C	9.71	16	1.65	28	2.89		F2C/Centres	49%	46%	54%
L4C	10.09	19	1.83	24	2.38		L4C/Centres	51%	54%	46%
[COLOR="blue"]Centres	19.80	35	1.74	52	2.63		Centres/Redux	27%	39%	32%[/COLOR]

[COLOR="blue"]Edges	54.29	53	0.98	111	2.04		Edges/Redux	73%	61%	68%[/COLOR]

[COLOR="blue"]Redux	74.09	88	1.18	163	2.19		Redux/Total	65%	51%	58%[/COLOR]

Cross+1	7.12	15	2.04	29	4.00		Cross+1/F2L	40%	31%	42%
F2L	17.97	47	2.62	69	3.81		F2L/3x3x3	45%	56%	58%
LL	22.06	38	1.70	49	2.22		LL/3x3x3	55%	44%	42%
[COLOR="blue"]3x3x3	40.03	85	2.11	118	2.94	[/COLOR]	[COLOR="blue"]3x3x3/Total	35%	49%	42%	[/COLOR]

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Brest you are crazy. Crazy good Haha, so gooood

Can we preorder this anywhere other than the V-Cube website?

How did I know he would do that

awesome stuff again from brest.

Clarkeeyyy said:

Can we preorder this anywhere other than the V-Cube website?

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I was talking via phone with a V-cube supplier yesterday and only information he had was it will be released in February. There is a toy fair in New York and I think they want to present the V-cube 4 there first. I also have to wait until late February early March to get my bit of stock. I would definitely have a pre-order opened if there was a confirmed release date. I'm not so sure if V-cubes.com will do pre order, they might just surprise you at any time

V-CUBE stole X-CUBE. That's what I know. And also Danyan 3x3.

Cool video, although I will would like to see more reviews. Not that it's biased, but if I was sent a cube a few weeks before its release date, I definitely wouldn't rip on it publicly.

About the whole knockoff thing.. as long as a company puts out a quality cube, it will sell... I have a Shengshou 2X2-9X9, but I have all the available sized V-cubes as well. Sony and Samsung both sell televisions using all the same parts and they both utilize the same technology but you buy the one that suits you better or you may even own one of each. I don't hear Sony getting all butthurt towards Samsung just because they were selling TV's first and "own" the rights to the television. And even if Sony had the rights; if Samsung can figure out a way to use similar technology and releases an improved version for cheaper, then all the power to them. Even if Shengshou flat out "ripped-off" V-Cube, what about the torpedoes in the V Cube 3 that are a blatant rip-off of a Dayan? And what about the X-Cube thing now where V-Cube clearly didn't have permission to use this technology as revealed earlier in this thread. It's funny how people are so quick to draw the rip-off card when it supports their argument, but turn their head when it goes against it.

I'm definitely going to buy a V-Cube 4 in a few months but I can't see it being better than a modded Shengshou V3 or V4. It seems V-Cube came out on top a few years ago when they were the only fish in the sea, but now that there are other companies around making similar or even better quality cubes for a third of the price, they seem to be releasing just average cubes in comparison. Time will tell.

V-cube 4b is available for 19.99€, DIY or assembled, on the official website. https://v-cubes.com/ecom/home.php?cat=267

(I post here since the V-cube 4 thread is closed...)

fyi the SS 6x6 has the same little bump things on their core pieces. This V4 is really much better than I expected. If it weren't so pricey I might consider getting one.

I have just ordered a white V-cube 4b from the V-cubes site. I also ordered sticker sets for the V-Cube 7, V-Cube 2a and the V-cube 2b as well.

The shipping is shared among all four items, so the cost of the V-Cube 4b (assuming each item has equal shipping costs) is $23.86 EURO or $32.41 AUD.

Which makes it a very expensive 4x4 cube.

If one does the calculation with the cube only and no stickers, the cube costs $35.45 EURO or $48.18 AUD.

This is a very, very expensive 4x4 cube.

For comparison I paid ~ $26 AUD (including S/H) each for all my 3 Eastsheen 4x4's, ~ $12 AUD for each of my 3 Shengshou 4x4's and ~ $16 AUD each
for my 2 QJ 4x4's.

I paid (including S/H) about $34 AUD each for both my Shengshou 6x6 and Shengshou 7x7 cubes.