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[Unofficial] 15.75 Avg5 with ZZ Method with reconstructions

uvafan

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Average of 5: 15.75
1. (17.19) D' B2 L2 B R F' L B F2 L D F L2 D2 U F' R U' R' D' B' F2 L2 D U'
2. (14.04) U D' F' B L F R2 F B' D' L2 F D R2 F' L B L' B' U' F2 L2 B2 U' B2
3. 16.21 F2 L' F D' L' R' B' U F2 L2 D' B D2 L D R' B2 D' U F2 L B F L2 R
4. 16.15 L2 B2 U' L2 D2 U' F B2 U F L' U' D B' F' U' B D2 R' L F2 L U' R' B'
5. 14.90 F' D' L' R' F U2 L' R B2 U B2 D F' U B F U2 B' D U2 L2 R F2 B2 R


Tips, tricks? Yes, I know my movecount is kind of high. :(

Reconstructions:

D' B2 L2 B R F' L B F2 L D F L2 D2 U F' R U' R' D' B' F2 L2 D U'
1.
x2
EOLine: F D' L' B' L D (6)
Right: L2 U' L U2 R U R2 U L' U L2 U' R' (13,19)
Left: L2 U L2 U' L U' L' U2 L U2 L2 U2 L U L' U L U2 L2 U2 L (21,40)
OCLL: U' R U R' U R U2 R' (8,48)
PLL: x' R U' R' D R U R' D' R U R' D R U' R' D' (16,64)
64/17.19=3.723 tps
U D' F' B L F R2 F B' D' L2 F D R2 F' L B L' B' U' F2 L2 B2 U' B2
2.
x2
EOLine: D R L2 F D2 (5)
Right: R' U2 R2 L' U2 R' U' R' U' L' U2 L U2 L' U2 R' (16,21)
Left: U' L U L' U' L U L U' L' (10,31)
OCLL: U F' r U R' U' r' F R (9,40)
PLL: U' R' U' R y R2 u R' U R U' R u' R2 U' (14,54)
54/14.04=3.846 tps
F2 L' F D' L' R' B' U F2 L2 D' B D2 L D R' B2 D' U F2 L B F L2 R
3.
x2
EOLine: B D U2 R' F R' D' (7)
Left: L' U' L2 U L' R2 U2 L U L2 U R U2 R2 L' U L (17,24)
Right: U R U' R' U2 R U2 R2 U R' U' R U R' U' R (16,40)
OCLL: U R2 D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R' (10,50)
PLL: R U' R U R U R U' R' U' R2 U' (12,62)
62/16.21=3.825 tps
L2 B2 U' L2 D2 U' F B2 U F L' U' D B' F' U' B D2 R' L F2 L U' R' B'
4.
x2
EOLine: L F' U' F' L D (6)
Left: U2 L' U2 L U' L' U L2 R U R U' R U' L' (15,21)
Right: R U R2 U' R2 U R U' R' U R U R' (13,34)
OCLL: U R2 D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R' (10,44)
PLL: U2 F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F' U (19,63)
63/16.15=3.901 tps
5.
F' D' L' R' F U2 L' R B2 U B2 D F' U B F U2 B' D U2 L2 R F2 B2 R // scramble
x2 // inspection
B2 D2 R2 B U2 B2 // EOLine (6)
R U' R U R' U R L' U2 L' U R' U2 R2 U' L' // Left block (16,22)
U R U' R2 U2 R U R U R' U2 R2 U R2 U R // Right block (16,38)
U R ' U' R U' R' U2 R // COLL (8,46)
M2 U M2 U M' U2 M2 U2 M' U // EPLL (10,56)

EDIT: Thanks to Ickathu for reconstructing the last solve!
 
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my movecount in a regular speedsolve tends to be around 60 aswell. i just dont see the great blocks and xeolines when rushing through a solve :/

yeah, we need the scrambles :)
 
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Put each solve in a separate spoiler, like such...
1.
x2
EOLine: F D' L' B' L D (6)
Right: L2 U' L U2 R U R2 U L' U L2 U' R' (13,19)
Left: L2 U L2 U' L U' L' U2 L U2 L2 U2 L U L' U L U2 L2 U2 L (21,40)
OCLL: U' R U R' U R U2 R' (8,48)
PLL: x' R U' R' D R U R' D' R U R' D R U' R' D' (16,64)
64/17.19=3.723 tps
2.
x2
EOLine: D R L2 F D2 (5)
Right: R' U2 R2 L' U2 R' U' R' U' L' U2 L U2 L' U2 R' (16,21)
Left: U' L U L' U' L U L U' L' (10,31)
OCLL: U F' r U R' U' r' F R (9,40)
PLL: U' R' U' R y R2 u R' U R U' R u' R2 U' (14,54)
54/14.04=3.846 tps
3.
x2
EOLine: B D U2 R' F R' D' (7)
Left: L' U' L2 U L' R2 U2 L U L2 U R U2 R2 L' U L (17,24)
Right: U R U' R' U2 R U2 R2 U R' U' R U R' U' R (16,40)
OCLL: U R2 D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R' (10,50)
PLL: R U' R U R U R U' R' U' R2 U' (12,62)
62/16.21=3.825 tps
4.
x2
EOLine: L F' U' F' L D (6)
Left: U2 L' U2 L U' L' U L2 R U R U' R U' L' (15,21)
Right: R U R2 U' R2 U R U' R' U R U R' (13,34)
OCLL: U R2 D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R' (10,44)
PLL: U2 F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F' U (19,63)
63/16.15=3.901 tps

And also put the scrambles with the reconstructions please. That makes it easier for us to use the reconstructions.

I'll do the reconstruction (if I can) after dinner.

EDIT:
Muahahahaha. I got the reconstruction.

F' D' L' R' F U2 L' R B2 U B2 D F' U B F U2 B' D U2 L2 R F2 B2 R // scramble
x2 // inspection
B2 D2 R2 B U2 B2 // EOLine (6, 56)
R U' R U R' U R L' U2 L' U R' U2 R2 U' L' // Left block (16, 56)
U R U' R2 U2 R U R U R' U2 R2 U R2 U R // Right block (16, 56)
U R ' U' R U' R' U2 R // COLL (8, 56)
M2 U M2 U M' U2 M2 U2 M' U // EPLL (10, 56)
See here
3.758 tps

EDIT2: I beat brest. (but I don't know if he was trying to reconstruct it. He'd definitely beat me if we were timing it. Your blocks were nearly impossible with that angle.)

Oh, weirdest (but awesome!) z-perm ever.
 
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Ickathu said:
Put each solve in a separate spoiler, like such...
1.
x2
EOLine: F D' L' B' L D (6)
Right: L2 U' L U2 R U R2 U L' U L2 U' R' (13,19)
Left: L2 U L2 U' L U' L' U2 L U2 L2 U2 L U L' U L U2 L2 U2 L (21,40)
OCLL: U' R U R' U R U2 R' (8,48)
PLL: x' R U' R' D R U R' D' R U R' D R U' R' D' (16,64)
64/17.19=3.723 tps
2.
x2
EOLine: D R L2 F D2 (5)
Right: R' U2 R2 L' U2 R' U' R' U' L' U2 L U2 L' U2 R' (16,21)
Left: U' L U L' U' L U L U' L' (10,31)
OCLL: U F' r U R' U' r' F R (9,40)
PLL: U' R' U' R y R2 u R' U R U' R u' R2 U' (14,54)
54/14.04=3.846 tps
3.
x2
EOLine: B D U2 R' F R' D' (7)
Left: L' U' L2 U L' R2 U2 L U L2 U R U2 R2 L' U L (17,24)
Right: U R U' R' U2 R U2 R2 U R' U' R U R' U' R (16,40)
OCLL: U R2 D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R' (10,50)
PLL: R U' R U R U R U' R' U' R2 U' (12,62)
62/16.21=3.825 tps
4.
x2
EOLine: L F' U' F' L D (6)
Left: U2 L' U2 L U' L' U L2 R U R U' R U' L' (15,21)
Right: R U R2 U' R2 U R U' R' U R U R' (13,34)
OCLL: U R2 D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R' (10,44)
PLL: U2 F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F' U (19,63)
63/16.15=3.901 tps

And also put the scrambles with the reconstructions please. That makes it easier for us to use the reconstructions.

I'll do the reconstruction (if I can) after dinner.
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Fixed it. Is that good? And yeah, I know my movecount could be better. I can do xeolines, but not really in a speedsolve. I have no idea how mDipalma does it. I do slow solves to practice look ahead some, I guess I'll just have to do more.
 
the best way to approach xeoline is to develop "LIS" (lazy inspection syndrome), and just plan out eo+line_edge_separation during inspection

that way you can make use of easy pair/blocks that youd otherwise throw away in the last 3 moves of eoline (the R,L,D part)
 
Your EOL are always fast and optimal. Bravo.

First, you must know that you are faster than me, but if I may help :

I almost always start with the left block. I look for the 2 corners and 3 edges before I move.

Solve #1
After EOL, the RB pair is in a perfect waiting position.
You may build the RF pair with U2 R2 !

Solve #2
After EOL, you missed this easy left block :
L2 U' R U L2 R U' R' U2 L' (+10)
after which there was an easy right block :
R2 U2 R' U' R' U2 R2 U' R' (+9)
or U' R2 U2 R' U' R' U2 R U R U2' R' (+12) with phasing.

Solve #3
There was a nice left block :
R' L2 U R' U R U2 L2 U' L' (+10)
then an easy right block :
R' U R' U R' U2 R2 U R U' R' (+11)
or R' U R' U R' U2 R2 U R U R' U' R U' R' (+15) with phasing.

Solve #4
Not easy. I think I would have done this:
L F' U' F' L D : (6) your EOL
R' U L' U R U2 L : (+7) LF pair
U' R' U2 R2 U R : (+6) RF pair (too obvious)
U L U L' : (+4) LB pair (still obvious)
U R' U R U2 R' U R : (+8) RB pair (who doesn't do that?) = 31 for F2L
(R U' L' U R' U' L) U' (R U' L' U R' U' L) : ZZLL : Niklas U' Niklas (good to know)
 
Nice EOLine!
Your movecount doesn't seem that bad to me, but you may try building the blocks together to improve it (I mean: build a square, then you see an easy square on the other block, so you do it, etc...).
Do you other ZZ guys solve always one block first and then the other?
 
porkynator said:
Nice EOLine!
Your movecount doesn't seem that bad to me, but you may try building the blocks together to improve it (I mean: build a square, then you see an easy square on the other block, so you do it, etc...).
Do you other ZZ guys solve always one block first and then the other?
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i do it just like you said, always the fastest blocks, no matter if they belong R or L.
Doing OH, i focus a bit more on ergonomics and if i can solve an entire 1x2x3 2gen, i do that even if its more moves.

@ mDiPalma - i think thats what i (try to) do, but im not exactly sure. can you give us a few examples?

i actually try to preserve built pairs all the time on eoline, and when i orient edges i chose F or F' (same for B) so i sort as many edges to the L or R face where they belong as i can.
 
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Thanks for the tips everyone.
Nice EOLine!
Your movecount doesn't seem that bad to me, but you may try building the blocks together to improve it (I mean: build a square, then you see an easy square on the other block, so you do it, etc...).
Do you other ZZ guys solve always one block first and then the other?
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Sometimes I do that, right now I'm at the point where it is like 1 in every 20 solves. Once I get better lookahead I'll probably do that more often.
 
porkynator said:
Do you other ZZ guys solve always one block first and then the other?
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i think most of us usually "multi-block" by habit.

but i suppose the most ergonomic alternative would be:
1) eoline
2) place 2 DR corners in DFR/DRB while isolating the left block pieces to U and L face
3) z rotation and solve left block with <RU>
4) porkynator's <RUD> "niklas" to solve corner permutation
5) z' rotation and solve right block with <RU>
6) 2gll

Petro Leum said:
@ mDiPalma - i think thats what i (try to) do, but im not exactly sure. can you give us a few examples?
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1. D' B2 L2 B R F' L B F2 L D F L2 D2 U F' R U' R' D' B' F2 L2 D U'

x2
Ultra Advanced UVALine Version 2.0: F D' L' B' U' L D (6+1=7)

1 move can preserve a pair and make for a much easier right block


2. U D' F' B L F R2 F B' D' L2 F D R2 F' L B L' B' U' F2 L2 B2 U' B2

x2
MehLine: D R L2 F [R/R'] D2 (5+1=6)

again, 1 move can preserve a pair

im sure there are similar examples in solves 3-5.
 
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