[Unofficial] Roux 11.98 sec avg5 (with two 10xx singles)

jms_gears1 · Oct 1, 2011

5BLD said:
I have been trying. I can now predict 4a and 4c from the previous steps/substeps, but predicting CMLL is a little hard...

When you are inserting the last pair look at all the U layer corners are visible.

What I would do, is do a bunch of solves (timed or not) And when all you have left to do is an <R> then look at all the U layer corners visible.

You dont really need to predict the entire case while inserting last pair, just the OCLL case.

5BLD · Oct 1, 2011

Will try that. I generally predict EO during end of second block so I can use the right KCLL if I know the alg.

Hovair · Oct 1, 2011

nice solves and congrats on sub 12

5BLD · Oct 1, 2011

Thanks, hope to be consistent sub-12 soon.

David1994 · Oct 1, 2011

stevecho816 · Oct 1, 2011

Roux method can be that fast???

Hershey · Oct 1, 2011

stevecho816 said:
Roux method can be that fast???

Roux can also be this fast:
Big
Green
Is

Awesome (with 8.21 average of 5)!

Roux and CFOP have the same amount of potential.

NeedReality · Oct 1, 2011

stevecho816 said:
Roux method can be that fast???

Yes. Here's a slightly slower average by BigGreen than the ones mentioned above, but I think it is his fastest on video.

Congrats 5BLD. I've been stuck at my same overall average for awhile, but I know it's because my lookahead just flat out sucks on most solves. I need to work on that.

Hershey · Oct 1, 2011

NeedReality said:
Yes. Here's a slightly slower average by BigGreen than the ones mentioned above, but I think it is his fastest on video.

Congrats 5BLD. I've been stuck at my same overall average for awhile, but I know it's because my lookahead just flat out sucks on most solves. I need to work on that.

6.64 single.

David1994 · Oct 1, 2011

NeedReality said:
Yes. Here's a slightly slower average by BigGreen than the ones mentioned above, but I think it is his fastest on video.

He says he used ortegaZB....

Hershey · Oct 1, 2011

David1994 said:
He says he used ortegaZB....

Someone obviously doesn't get the joke. OrtegaZB is not actually a real method: http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/List_of_Cubing_Memes#OrtegaZB_.28February_2010.29.

5BLD · Oct 1, 2011

Um, dave, OrtegaZB is just CLL.

Edit: ninja'd just as predicted.

Thanks NeedReality, my lookahead is fairly good, it's my turn speed now which I should work on by the looks of it

stevecho816 said:
Roux method can be that fast???

Yes, yes it can.

Sillas · Oct 1, 2011

Hm.. the Feliks of Roux. Great average.

nlCuber22 · Oct 1, 2011

Hershey said:
Someone obviously doesn't get the joke.

No need for snide remarks.

This is inspiring. I'm hardly sub-20 with Roux and while I don't think I'll be switching from CFOP as my main, I think it'd be cool to get faster. -starts digging for CMLLs-

cs071020 · Oct 2, 2011

great,I like this video,where can I learn this mothed?

Hershey · Oct 2, 2011

cs071020 said:
great,I like this video,where can I learn this mothed?

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?11506-Waffle-s-Roux-Tutorial (Jules Manalang/Waffo, fast Roux user)
or http://grrroux.free.fr/method/Intro.html (method creator, Gilles Roux's, website).

5BLD · Oct 2, 2011

cs071020 said:
great,I like this video,where can I learn this mothed?

I've got a quick intro video on my YouTube channel.
And if you need any help feel free to email me.

Also as Hershey said, Gilles Roux's site is very good, I learnt from it.
But people have told me waffle's was good too so try that too (I can't say much because I didn't learn from it). Waffle seems to explain the method far more simply so if you're confused with Roux's use his.

Sillas said:
Hm.. the Feliks of Roux. Great average.

Thanks

Brest · Oct 2, 2011

Amazing improvement, great to see! A double flick U2' could be a bonus for you.

5BLD said:

1st solve - 11.54

L F2 L2 F2 R' F2 R' B2 F2 R' D F' D2 B' U B2 L2 B' F2

z2 // inspection
U D' x' U F' // LF block (+1)
U x U2 L' U' x' // LB pair (+2)
R2 U' R U' R' U (Rr') U M' r U R' // RF block
U2' R' U' R // RB pair (+1)
R U R' U R U L' U R' U' L // CMLL
U' M' U M' // EO
U2 (Rr') U2 M' U' // UL/UR
(Rr') U2 (Rr') U2 // L3E
alg.garron

11.54sec - 47stm/51etm - 4.07/4.42tps

2nd solve - 10.86

F U2 F2 R U L2 F' U B2 U R U2 L2 R' B' D' R2

x' // inspection
U' x' U // LB block (+1)
(L'r') U F U' r' F // LF pair (-1)
R U M' U R' U' U R' U2 R // RF block (+1)
U' r U' R' // RB pair
U3' R U2' R' U2 l' U R U' x' // CMLL (+4)
U (Rr') U' (Rr') // EO
U' (Rr') U2 (Rr') U' // UL/UR
R' R2 R' U2 M' U2 (Rr') // L3E
alg.garron

10.86sec - 48stm/54etm - 4.42/4.97tps

3rd solve - 13.54

R' U2 B2 F2 U L2 D' F U2 L2 B2 D2 R D2 B U' L D'

y x // inspection
U x u2 // LF block (+1)
U' R U' R' U2 R U2' x' U L' // LB pair (+2)
U' R2 U' R' U R U' r U R' // RF block
U' (Rr') U' M' U R' U2' R // RB pair (+1)
U' R' F R U R' F R U F U2' F' // CMLL (+1)
R U' r' U' M' U r U r' // EO 6flip
U' (Rr') U2 M' U // UL/UR
M2' U2 M2' U2 // L4E (+1)
alg.garron

13.54sec - 59stm/65etm - 4.36/4.80tps

4th solve - 10.60

B2 R2 B2 U B2 U R U2 R F U2 F2 R2 U2 B' R2 B' U2

y // inspection
U' x U L U' // LB block (+1)
x U' r x' D' // LF pair (+2)
x2 L U' R U R U R U R' // RF block (+1)
M' U' r' U R // RB pair
U2 l' U2 y R U2 R' U2 R' U2 (y'x') R // CMLL (+3)
U' (Rr') U' (Rr') // EO
U' M' U2 (Rr') U // UL/UR
M2' U2 M2' U2 // L4E
alg.garron

10.60sec - 44stm/51etm - 4.15/4.81tps

5th solve - 14.66

L2 U2 F' R2 B2 F R2 U2 B D' U2 L' B' R D2 L D2 F

x y2 // inspection
D' R U L' U' // LF block
L2 U' L' U R U' R2' U2 x' U // LB pair (+1)
x r U r U R2 U' M' U' r' U // RB block (+1)
R2 U R' U2 R U R' U' r U R' // RF block
U U' R' U' R U' L U' R' U L' U2 R // CMLL
U' (Rr') U' M U' M' U M' // EO
U (Rr') U2 (Rr') U' M2' U' // UL/UR
(EdD') M' (EdD') M' // L4E
alg.garron

14.66sec - 67stm/69etm - 4.57/4.71tps

5BLD · Oct 2, 2011

Thanks Brest! Your reconstructions have been very helpful.
Well my movecount has improved a little since last time...
I will look at the fifth solve to see why it's so bad.

Edit: I better start on U2' double flick, about time lol.

cs071020 · Oct 2, 2011

Hershey said:
http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?11506-Waffle-s-Roux-Tutorial (Jules Manalang/Waffo, fast Roux user)
or http://grrroux.free.fr/method/Intro.html (method creator, Gilles Roux's, website).

thank you

it seems difficuit,I am not fluent in English,so I don't understand some of them,but I will learn with dictionary

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