# Thread: List all the ways to practice F2L here

1. Originally Posted by tim
Originally Posted by Raffael
Originally Posted by Edam
whats a good amount of turns to aim for in f2l? I'm on about 40 (inc cross) at the moment.
as far as i know cross and any f2l case can be solved in 8 moves or less, so you seem to be not wasting moves.
That's the worst case you're talking about.
it is indeed, i should have said 8 moves or less..
oh wait!! i did say something similar...

2. 7. Memorize the 41 case algorithms and be able to execute them from all angles (How did I forget to add this? )
8. If you're aiming to be color neutral, practice solving the cross and the F2L for all sides. If you're aiming to be opposite color neutral, practice solving the cross and F2L for two opposite colors (like white and yellow).
9. Use a cube with an unstickered LL specifically for F2L practice.

Anything else I missed?

3. Originally Posted by Raffael
Originally Posted by tim
Originally Posted by Raffael
Originally Posted by Edam
whats a good amount of turns to aim for in f2l? I'm on about 40 (inc cross) at the moment.
as far as i know cross and any f2l case can be solved in 8 moves or less, so you seem to be not wasting moves.
That's the worst case you're talking about.
it is indeed, i should have said 8 moves or less..
oh wait!! i did say something similar...
That wasn't my point. Your conclusion isn't correct.

4. Originally Posted by tim
Originally Posted by Raffael
Originally Posted by tim
Originally Posted by Raffael
Originally Posted by Edam
whats a good amount of turns to aim for in f2l? I'm on about 40 (inc cross) at the moment.
as far as i know cross and any f2l case can be solved in 8 moves or less, so you seem to be not wasting moves.
That's the worst case you're talking about.
it is indeed, i should have said 8 moves or less..
oh wait!! i did say something similar...
That wasn't my point. Your conclusion isn't correct.
Context: I think Raff meant to say that Edam isn't wasting any more moves than he has to, to adhere to the notion that any f2l case can be solved in 8 moves or less.

5. This might be considered a bit more advanced, but practice solving not only the cross but also the 2x2x2 block. This might lead to you learning that you like Petrus F2L, or Petrich (2x2x2, followed by the other 2 cross pieces, followed by F2L) or Xcross.

Chris

6. Originally Posted by kjeldsen
Context: I think Raff meant to say that Edam isn't wasting any more moves than he has to, to adhere to the notion that any f2l case can be solved in 8 moves or less.
Why do you have to waste moves?

7. Originally Posted by kjeldsen
Originally Posted by tim
Originally Posted by Raffael
Originally Posted by tim
Originally Posted by Raffael
Originally Posted by Edam
whats a good amount of turns to aim for in f2l? I'm on about 40 (inc cross) at the moment.
as far as i know cross and any f2l case can be solved in 8 moves or less, so you seem to be not wasting moves.
That's the worst case you're talking about.
it is indeed, i should have said 8 moves or less..
oh wait!! i did say something similar...
That wasn't my point. Your conclusion isn't correct.
Context: I think Raff meant to say that Edam isn't wasting any more moves than he has to, to adhere to the notion that any f2l case can be solved in 8 moves or less.
exactly, thank you.

tim probably understood what i was trying to say in the first place, he is just nitpicking.
that's ok, since i only wanted to annoy him a bit with my reply.

8. Originally Posted by Raffael
Originally Posted by kjeldsen
Originally Posted by tim
Originally Posted by Raffael
Originally Posted by tim
Originally Posted by Raffael
Originally Posted by Edam
whats a good amount of turns to aim for in f2l? I'm on about 40 (inc cross) at the moment.
as far as i know cross and any f2l case can be solved in 8 moves or less, so you seem to be not wasting moves.
That's the worst case you're talking about.
it is indeed, i should have said 8 moves or less..
oh wait!! i did say something similar...
That wasn't my point. Your conclusion isn't correct.
Context: I think Raff meant to say that Edam isn't wasting any more moves than he has to, to adhere to the notion that any f2l case can be solved in 8 moves or less.
exactly, thank you.

tim probably understood what i was trying to say in the first place, he is just nitpicking.
that's ok, since i only wanted to annoy him a bit with my reply.
Nope, i didn't.

9. I think that it may be a little counter productive to use a cube with no last layer stickers, because when you are doing f2l on a normal cube you have more edges/corners to look for.

10. Originally Posted by msemtd
I built a cube especially for F2L practice with an unstickered LL. This would've been a good tool but I had to dismantle it to build a cube for friends.
You don't get realistic times then because the recognition is way easier because there are less colors on the cube( no yellow/green piece etc...)

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