Algorithmless Pll

[shafiqdms1]

if you mean solving the last layer without any algs, then yes!

[nitrocan]

if you mean solving the last layer without any algs, then yes!

Why?

[AvGalen]

Like M D' M' to "ex-sert" an edge and M D M' to "insert" it and R' D' R for "ex-serting" corners and R' D R the "insert" it?

I think this is what he means, but I don't think every PLL can be done with that method.

[Jens]

Sure it can. Just use U turns to change Parity

[riffz]

No, I'm not interested.

Haha.


Eh, sure... but why didn't you just post it to begin with?

[AvGalen]

Sure it can. Just use U turns to change Parity

I think that works, but I am not sure it would be easy enough to explain to a beginner.

"Now position the U-layer so that you either have to perform a 3-cycle of corners, or 2 2-cycles" And execution would be pretty hard as well.

But doable

[Jens]

That's the way i use to explain to beginners.
Except i tell them to use M D2 M' and R' D2 R. This way they don't keep forgetting which direction they turned the last time.

"Now position the U-layer so that you either have to perform a 3-cycle of corners, or 2 2-cycles"

I tell them to put either one or no piece in the correct place. That worked pretty well for everyone i explained it, yet.

[JLarsen]

Well how you REALLY would do ll with no algs, would be with commutators. and yes, there are endless commutators for each pll. Whether or not they are remotely practical, is another story.

[kickinwing2112]

i would like to see that

[AvGalen]

That's the way i use to explain to beginners.
Except i tell them to use M D2 M' and R' D2 R. This way they don't keep forgetting which direction they turned the last time.

"Now position the U-layer so that you either have to perform a 3-cycle of corners, or 2 2-cycles"

I tell them to put either one or no piece in the correct place. That worked pretty well for everyone i explained it, yet.

I also prefer to teach those halfturn moves. I use the quarterturns on megaminx and sometimes mess them up. Half turns don't work on MegaMinx

The "one or no piece" sounds good, but an E-Perm (with a U2 to misalign) would also be no good corners but fairly hard to execute