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Thread: I use 15 algs but know 60, how 'bout you?

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    I've found that If i ditch using special orient+perm algs I can perform much faster and much more consistently. I currently use 15 algs and I average 32.xx seconds. I'm wondering what other people's alg counts are and what their respective times are.
    Now I understand that you reach a point with algorithms at which you can instantly recognize them and execute them, I wouldn't be at 30 seconds if i couldn't, but what I seem to be approaching is getting the actual effect on the cube faster(i.e. using a special alg) or being able to see ahead an alg or two and eliminating any hesitation or bogus AUF moves. Currently i'm faster when i can see ahead and not bother with the special alg.

    BTW. I'm not counting F2L I figure once you can do those mirrored from any angle and with the cube sideways or whatever, its intuitive.

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    I am not sure exactly how many I know, but I use all of them whenever I get that case. The only way to get quicker with them is to practice them. Work on recognizing them, and then executing them, and you will improve.

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    I know all 57 oll and all 21 pll and know a few different ones for probably like 10 of those. Like PJK said, I do each and every one of them when they come up. It's the only way to get faster at recognizing them and seeing them.

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    Let's see. There's 57 + 21 basic ones. And then I probably know 5 different N perms (can't make up my mind...). I use 28 COLL algs...subtract 5 base, so that's 23 net. And then probably another 5 loose ones here and there. That's approximately 130 or so...

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    Not as many as some others. I know all 21 PLL, 10 OLL for 3-look LL and another random OLL that I learned from the Y-Perm PLL. So that's about 32.
    3x3x3 Single: 19.10 (Wish this was my average)
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    I know a very limited amount of OLL algs but I know that my best times were those where the OLL case was one I recognized instead of doing 2 for the orientation stage. And I know all 21 PLL cases. Once I got quick at using the PLL cases my average dropped about 6 seconds because I only had to do one PLL instead of breaking it into 2 steps. I now average between 25 and 30, depending on whether I get an OLL case I recognize or not.

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    I realy know too many algs ;) I know all PLL's but for about half of them I know 2 or even 3 (Don't ask me why cause I only use 21 of them). I know about 49 OLL's, I 'll don't count special F2L cases... Also I know half of CLL cases so that's 20 more... I know the last steps of roux so that's another couple of algs. For non-3x3: +/- 5 megaminx algs. 3 4x4 algs. A whole bunch of 2x2 algs, also some pyraminx...
    Oh well, I guess I know too many but still not enough! :lol:

    p.s. I realy know some algs which I never use so that's pretty stupid :P

    p.s2 I think that if you use a 2.5 look last layer (orient edges with last pair (6 algs) ) you can average 15/16 seconds...so 34 algs would be enough (6+7+21)
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    I use 28 (7 OLL/21 PLL), but I know upwards of 50. I never really took time to count all of the ones I know, but I only use the ones I like.

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    I probably know over 100 algs... Even if I don't include the F2L algs...

    I know more algs for most OLL's/PLL's for example.

    For the last layer I effectively use about 1 alg for every case, though. Well, for some cases, I use a different alg from certain angles.
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    I only know and use five algs for the Petrus Method and have an average time of around a minute 7 seconds (discarding highest and lowest times) according to the timer i got from this site. With more practice, Ill probably be able to cut that down to sub-minute averages. Most of my time comes from looking for the right cubes when forming the first two layers.

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