# Thread: My sucky average of 10.

1. ## My sucky average of 10.

I am using intuitive f2l.(I suck at it even though I have been using it for a few months) @ look oll and some pll.(Need to finnd better algorithms for u though.)
Average: 00:54.67
Avg. 5: 00:55.33
3 of 5: 00:55.52
Best: 00:45.19

This was out of 10. Oh and my cross takes 8-12 seconds. THoughts and help.

2. Focus on your cross making and solve it on bottom.

3. Keep working on F2L. Intuitive F2L takes a while because you need to build the "algorithms" in your brain yourself. but once you get the hang of it, you'll LOVE it. I just finished a 3.5 hour cubing session, and i was loving every minute of F2L because it's completely intuitive

You should start learning the PLLs too. Use Intuitive F2L, 2 look OLL, and the PLLs for a while. Keep working hard on that combination of things to solve the cube. That's what i'm using now and i average 28 seconds. I do know about 10 of the OLLs as well though.

4. Originally Posted by griz
I am using intuitive f2l.(I suck at it even though I have been using it for a few months) @ look oll and some pll.(Need to finnd better algorithms for u though.)
Average: 00:54.67
Avg. 5: 00:55.33
3 of 5: 00:55.52
Best: 00:45.19

This was out of 10. Oh and my cross takes 8-12 seconds. THoughts and help.
Your cross takes 8-12 seconds? Work on that!

I would always advise using a different method (like Waterman or Roux, because they're cooler), but that's just me. I mean, if you ever want to get better than everyone else using Fridrich, who have just about taken it to its max, then you should use a different method to beat them!

And of course everyone says, "Go slow and look ahead"

5. Vulosity the sad thing is I do solve cross on bottom. I will Keep working on the f2l and learn some plls.Thanks for your advice

6. practice!!!

7. Originally Posted by Vulosity
Focus on your cross making and solve it on bottom.
No! I'm sub-20 and I solve with cross on top. No one does cross on top anymore. Why doesn't anyone start doing cross on top? I mean cross on bottom lets you watch F2L pieces move around and lets you break into F2L without flipping the entire cube, but.... You know what. I think I might try to convert.

You might try giving that video a view or two- I though my F2L was pretty efficient, but after using some of the tricks badmephisto shows I dropped my times by 5-10 seconds.

9. Originally Posted by pcharles93
Originally Posted by Vulosity
Focus on your cross making and solve it on bottom.
No! I'm sub-20 and I solve with cross on top. No one does cross on top anymore. Why doesn't anyone start doing cross on top? I mean cross on bottom lets you watch F2L pieces move around and lets you break into F2L without flipping the entire cube, but.... You know what. I think I might try to convert.
i am cross on top... also f2l on left, which seems to be dying out. i also think im one of only a few who got sub20 without full PLL. still use two Ts for E perm, and conjugated J perms for the N's.

but yeah. practice. a lot. if you have not improved using intuitive f2l after a few months, then i am not 100% sure you fully understand intuitive f2l. did you design your method yourself, or did you learn how to start intuitive from a video like badmephisto's?

10. I do cross on top (sometimes back or left, whichever is nicer) and F2L on left. You're right, Vault, we seem to be a dying breed. F2L on bottom is easier to write tutorials for, so most of the newer kids in the cubing scene learned that way. Even when I teach people I teach F2L on bottom.

To the topic creator: it seems like you just need more practice. Practice your intuitive F2L until you don't even have to think about it anymore. And work on your cross too; there's no reason it should take 8-12 seconds. Can you figure out how to assemble your cross in 7-8 moves or less every time? If not, that's something to practice.

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