My sucky average of 10.
I am using intuitive f2l.(I suck at it even though I have been using it for a few months) @ look oll and some pll.(Need to finnd better algorithms for u though.)
Average: 00:54.67
Avg. 5: 00:55.33
3 of 5: 00:55.52
Best: 00:45.19
This was out of 10. Oh and my cross takes 8-12 seconds. THoughts and help.
Focus on your cross making and solve it on bottom.
Keep working on F2L. Intuitive F2L takes a while because you need to build the "algorithms" in your brain yourself. but once you get the hang of it, you'll LOVE it. I just finished a 3.5 hour cubing session, and i was loving every minute of F2L because it's completely intuitive
You should start learning the PLLs too. Use Intuitive F2L, 2 look OLL, and the PLLs for a while. Keep working hard on that combination of things to solve the cube. That's what i'm using now and i average 28 seconds. I do know about 10 of the OLLs as well though.
Your cross takes 8-12 seconds? Work on that!Originally Posted by griz
I would always advise using a different method (like Waterman or Roux, because they're cooler), but that's just me. I mean, if you ever want to get better than everyone else using Fridrich, who have just about taken it to its max, then you should use a different method to beat them!
And of course everyone says, "Go slow and look ahead"
Vulosity the sad thing is I do solve cross on bottom. I will Keep working on the f2l and learn some plls.Thanks for your advice
No! I'm sub-20 and I solve with cross on top. No one does cross on top anymore.Why doesn't anyone start doing cross on top? I mean cross on bottom lets you watch F2L pieces move around and lets you break into F2L without flipping the entire cube, but.... You know what. I think I might try to convert.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-xbcAMfWwM
You might try giving that video a view or two- I though my F2L was pretty efficient, but after using some of the tricks badmephisto shows I dropped my times by 5-10 seconds.
i am cross on top... also f2l on left, which seems to be dying out. i also think im one of only a few who got sub20 without full PLL. still use two Ts for E perm, and conjugated J perms for the N's.No! I'm sub-20 and I solve with cross on top. No one does cross on top anymore.
but yeah. practice. a lot. if you have not improved using intuitive f2l after a few months, then i am not 100% sure you fully understand intuitive f2l. did you design your method yourself, or did you learn how to start intuitive from a video like badmephisto's?
I do cross on top (sometimes back or left, whichever is nicer) and F2L on left. You're right, Vault, we seem to be a dying breed. F2L on bottom is easier to write tutorials for, so most of the newer kids in the cubing scene learned that way. Even when I teach people I teach F2L on bottom.
To the topic creator: it seems like you just need more practice. Practice your intuitive F2L until you don't even have to think about it anymore. And work on your cross too; there's no reason it should take 8-12 seconds. Can you figure out how to assemble your cross in 7-8 moves or less every time? If not, that's something to practice.
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