First of all, I would like to state that my ONLY reason for not doing this before was to avoid a full on confrontation and because I did not feel like trying to teach someone who obviously does not understand the rules of argumentation how to argue, but alas here I go:
Let us first start with the wonderful Ad Hominem that Kir has been asking for so feverrently OH wait!!! He gave me one right here in this very forum:
THIS IS COMPLETELY ILLOGICAL. Just because a person makes a typo does not mean that their claims in the surrounding paragraphs are incorrect. What he tried to do here was employ a logical falacy i.e. a statement which is inherently flawed in its logic and therefore not valid, in order to assert a claim i.e. that I was wrong about the things I said in this paragraph he quoted. Kir loves to do this and has done this in almost every argument we have ever had, when he does this, his claims are almost always INCORRECT. ANy statement made to degrade the character of your opponent is IRRELEVANT and if done to assert a claim is ILLOGICAL.
lie1 [lahy] Show IPA noun, verb, lied, ly·ing.
a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.
an inaccurate or false statement.
the charge or accusation of lying: He flung the lie back at his accusers.
Lies must be false statements made with intention, if not then it is called being incorrect, not lies
What your describe here Kir:
I have to leave now to go to work, but I hope everyone can see (for as long as this post lasts) that Kir does in fact make Illogical statements very often.
Also, Kir knows a lot in terms of number of things, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN HE IS ALWAYS RIGHT NOR DOES IT NECESSARILY MEAN HE KNOWS A LOT ABOUT SPEFIC AND LEARNED KNOWLEDGE SUCH AS COLOR NEUTRALITY, such logic is FLAWED. If you need me to explain that then you do not understand logical syllogisms and you are the prime example of what I described as being the person who will likely side with Kir.
TO RELATE ALL OF THIS BACK TO THE OP SO THAT WE DON'T GE THOS GOOD MEMBER'S THREAD SHUT DOWN, ONE THING THAT WILL MAKE YOU FASTER IS UNDERSTANDING LOGICAL PROCESSES BECAUSE KNOWING THEM CAN MAKE IT EASIER TO DETERMINE WHAT ACTION YOU SHOULD TAKE IN AMBIGUOUS SITUATIONS SUCH AS WHEN YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT IS IN THE BACK TWO SLOTS.
BTW, If you would like to continue this discussion Kir, we can do so later tonight, in an appropriate setting as I will be making a thread in which we can discuss this and other issues of logic.