Help breaking sub 10 average!!

pkvk9122 · Jul 31, 2014

Hey guyz!

I have been cubing for a while now and have recently been on and off the cube lol.
i have managed to recover my speed (currently about 13 seconds average) but am stuck right now, as I was a while ago.
I can not seem to break the 10 second barrier no matter what I try. Some details on my solves:

I use standard CFOP, no other variations. Just normal F2l, OLL, and PLL.
I have had 3 sub 10s in the past. I use a Dayan Guhong V2.

What should I do (learn, study, practise etc) to break the sub 10 barrier?
Any thoughts are welcome!

Thanks

pkvk9122

Edit: I have searched these forums and google, however most of them are on breaking sub-30, 20, and 15. Also I am colour neutral

Renslay · Jul 31, 2014

My first thoughts were learning X-crosses and edge control techniques (WV, subsets of ZBLS, COLL, other similar things).

Also, what is your breakdown?

Hypocrism · Jul 31, 2014

I'm with you there, I also currently average low 13s. But at an average of 13s, you can't be aiming for sub10. I think smaller goals are better, so sub13 first, then sub12, then sub11, then sub10. Progress is pretty slow and I think these goals are more motivating.

I'm making videos about how I practice. There's currently only 1 but that's because I don't like recording the narration when I'm not home alone, and so won't finish off the next two videos until Friday. But do the standard-focus intensely on looking ahead, and don't just grind solves, but try to make proper progress.

GuRoux · Jul 31, 2014

pkvk9122 said:
Hey guyz!

I have been cubing for a while now and have recently been on and off the cube lol.
i have managed to recover my speed (currently about 13 seconds average) but am stuck right now, as I was a while ago.
I can not seem to break the 10 second barrier no matter what I try. Some details on my solves:

I use standard CFOP, no other variations. Just normal F2l, OLL, and PLL.
I have had 3 sub 10s in the past. I use a Dayan Guhong V2.

What should I do (learn, study, practise etc) to break the sub 10 barrier?
Any thoughts are welcome!

Thanks

pkvk9122

Edit: I have searched these forums and google, however most of them are on breaking sub-30, 20, and 15. Also I am colour neutral

try to see what you are bad at. cross? f2l? oll? pll? alg recognition? lookahead? fingertricks? movecount?

PJKCuber · Jul 31, 2014

I am a major nub and I suck. But this should help. Get something better than A Guhong
[youtubehd]mzcUbBNhWMM[/youtubehd]

GuRoux · Jul 31, 2014

PJKCuber said:
I am a major nub and I suck. But this should help. Get something better than A Guhong

wow there, guhong is not a bad cube. alex lau and michal pleskowicz uses it.

PJKCuber · Jul 31, 2014

GuRoux said:
wow there, guhong is not a bad cube. alex lau and michal pleskowicz uses it.

Sure, but its kinda outdated compared to the Zhanchi or Moyu cubes.

10461394944000 · Jul 31, 2014

PJKCuber said:
Sure, but its kinda outdated compared to the Zhanchi or Moyu cubes.

that doesnt mean you have to get a new cube though

PJKCuber · Jul 31, 2014

10461394944000 said:
that doesnt mean you have to get a new cube though

True, I'm just saying fast cubes like the Weilong could help.

kcl · Jul 31, 2014

PJKCuber said:
Sure, but its kinda outdated compared to the Zhanchi or Moyu cubes.

Clearly it doesn't matter if two of the worlds fastest solvers use it.

brian724080 · Jul 31, 2014

PJKCuber said:
Sure, but its kinda outdated compared to the Zhanchi or Moyu cubes.

You can use pretty much any modern speed-cube to achieve sub-10

FailCuber · Jul 31, 2014

PJKCuber said:
Sure, but its kinda outdated compared to the Zhanchi or Moyu cubes.

Guhong v2 is still a great choice for a lot of people. and I think the Zhanchi's more older then the Guhong v2

goodatthis · Aug 1, 2014

Since I can't give any specific advice, I would recommend a few general things.

1. What Hypocrism said is good, I think you should go for sub 12 before sub 10.
2. Try looking at breakdowns of solves to see what you're better at and what you're not so great at, and maybe post a video for critique.
3. Start practicing a LOT, doing something like an Ao100 a day can really help. In the wise words of Feliks, the answer to the question, "How do I get fast?" is always "Practice."

Future Cuber · Aug 1, 2014

PJKCuber said:
I am a major nub and I suck. But this should help. Get something better than A Guhong
[youtubehd]mzcUbBNhWMM[/youtubehd]

I remember that you said that this video was useless to you .....
when someone else recomended this video

PJKCuber · Aug 1, 2014

Future Cuber said:
I remember that you said that this video was useless to you .....
when someone else recomended this video

Not this video. Cyoubx's series on you can be sub 20 without..... look ahead or cross on bottom. I am sub 20 with those things, so it is obvious that I cant be sub 20 without them.

Future Cuber · Aug 1, 2014

PJKCuber said:
Not this video. Cyoubx's series on you can be sub 20 without..... look ahead or cross on bottom. I am sub 20 with those things, so it is obvious that I cant be sub 20 without them.

Im not sure that he metioned that you can be sub 20 without cross on bottom............
and you CAN be sub 20 with out lookahead

Musicalboy2 · Aug 1, 2014

Future Cuber said:
Im not sure that he metioned that you can be sub 20 without cross on bottom............
and you CAN be sub 20 with out lookahead

Heh. Why not cross on left?

CubeBird · Aug 1, 2014

Just practise ALOT. It took me like 4 months of practice to get from 2 mins to 20 seconds.

guysensei1 · Aug 1, 2014

Musicalboy2 said:
Heh. Why not cross on left?

Please, cross on front is clearly faster than cross on left. B moves are way easier to execute than U and R.
I'm surprised feliks doesn't do cross on front.

brian724080 · Aug 1, 2014

guysensei1 said:
Please, cross on front is clearly faster than cross on left. B moves are way easier to execute than U and R.
I'm surprised feliks doesn't do cross on front.

Are you serious, I don't even do cross!

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