[Review] MoYu AoSu 4x4x4

What;s force cubes?

FailCuber said:

What;s force cubes?

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Take 6 stickerless cubes, reassemble the parts into single color cubes.
Buy stickers and sticker it.
Awesomeness.

Man... I'm pretty disappointed in the contrast. But I guess they use the same plastic as the transparent YuLong, so it's to be expected.

Great review though... thank you for be so detailed!

Awesome review, very well done. I really enjoyed you showing specific examples of the contrast in real solves. It sounds nicely scripted and good tone throughout.

FailCuber said:

I really like your channel. I subbed. nice review.

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Awesome, I am constantly putting out content. Hope you enjoy. And I always welcome feedback to let me know what you might want to see!

guysensei1 said:

I'm super tempted to buy 6 of them and make force cubes.

Transparent single colored Aosus would be awesome!

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That would be amazing. but 170$ before shipping sounds a bit on the expensive side lol.

Chree said:

Man... I'm pretty disappointed in the contrast. But I guess they use the same plastic as the transparent YuLong, so it's to be expected.

Great review though... thank you for be so detailed!

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It disappoints me too. I guess this cube is destined to be a display piece. But I still love it.

sk8erman41 said:

Awesome review, very well done. I really enjoyed you showing specific examples of the contrast in real solves. It sounds nicely scripted and good tone throughout.

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Thank you. And honestly, that wasn't the plan at all. I just had legitimate problems with color recognition, so I decided to add that to the video.

I am very disappointed with the aosu. One outer side was way tighter then the other out of the box. Any way to fix it? I think the tensions are even.

FailCuber said:

I am very disappointed with the aosu. One outer side was way tighter then the other out of the box. Any way to fix it? I think the tensions are even.

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Make sure the tensions are even. Report back once you know. It seems like the most likely issue.

Tensions are EXACTLY even. They can't be more even then this. This happened straight out of the box.

FailCuber said:

Tensions are EXACTLY even. They can't be more even then this. This happened straight out of the box.

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I'm not sure, being out of the box means definitely not in even tensions yet for me
It could be different for everyone else though, but that is one of my rule of thumb regarding twisty puzzles

FailCuber said:

Tensions are EXACTLY even. They can't be more even then this. This happened straight out of the box.

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That makes it more likely that the tensions are uneven. You are most likely not going to get a perfect cube (i.e. tensioned, lubed properly) straight out of the box.

I got the moyu aosu stickerless about 3 weeks ago from hknowstore, and straight out of the box it turned super smooth. I didn't need to alter the tensions. I haven't lubed the cube, and I don't feel the need to, the turning is just super smooth, the cornercutting is great (up to 1 cubie, 3/4th goes effortless) and the reverse cornercutting is sufficient (1/3rd of a cubie). Lockups are rare and minor, when they happen it's often because the middle layers aren't lined up. I have never had a piece pop in the 3 weeks I had it. This cube is really easy to control and is very fast.
In my opinion, this cube is excellent.

Note though, that I don't have other 4x4's, so I don't have much to compare it to.

Chree said:

Right out of the box, my Aosu is experiencing issues. One axis is much tighter than the other two. Meaning I can do Rw2, no resistance. Uw2, no resistance. Then Fw2... lots of resistance. Even though I've loosening the tensions on all side, the level of resistance stays the same. And since the core moves independently after each solve, the axis that experiences this tightness changes throughout the solve. It really sucks when the tightness winds up on my M axis during OLL parity.

I'm going to tear this thing down, clean it, and relube it. Hopefully that helps. Has anyone else experiences this? Does anyone have any idea what this could be?

Edit: it seems as it a piece of plastic was jammed between the circle and square pieces on one of the centers, causing extra friction. Everything's fine now!

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I think i have your problem.

Guess I'm not the only one who found the AoSu difficult to tension correctly, and I've still not managed it. I can have the tensions feeling almost even, tweak one side by 1/16 of a turn, and have the cube suddenly feel horrible, it's very weird and annoying. If I don't get it perfect by ABHC, I'll pay someone a beer if they can fix it.

bobthegiraffemonkey said:

Guess I'm not the only one who found the AoSu difficult to tension correctly, and I've still not managed it. I can have the tensions feeling almost even, tweak one side by 1/16 of a turn, and have the cube suddenly feel horrible, it's very weird and annoying. If I don't get it perfect by ABHC, I'll pay someone a beer if they can fix it.

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James Molloy gogogo

FailCuber said:

I think i have your problem.

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If that's the case, all you'd need to do is take it apart and put it back together again.

It could also be that the center stalks aren't seated to the prongs of the core all the way. You may need to go as far as taking out the screws, inspecting all the center pieces to be sure no plastic flakes are still present. Just be careful when putting it back together and make sure the alignment mechanism of the core/center pieces are lined up correctly when reassembling.

You'll also likely have to relube while you're at it. Use a light lube (or an extremely small amount of heavy lube) around the square center "caps". And use a very small amount of light lube everywhere else. There's something about the plastic they use on the internals where it can very easily be overlubed and the whole thing feels like crap again. Mine took months of breaking in before that wasn't an issue anymore.

Sometimes we just get unlucky. Sorry you're having so many issues, man.

Tensions doesn't matter in Moyu 4x4's right?

FailCuber said:

Tensions doesn't matter in Moyu 4x4's right?

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They do, and it actually matters quite a lot

yoinneroid said:

They do, and it actually matters quite a lot

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No, I heard that it doesn't effect the turning at all.

FailCuber said:

No, I heard that it doesn't effect the turning at all.

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Tighten the tension to its maximum and try turning the cube
you'll understand.........

Future Cuber said:

Tighten the tension to its maximum and try turning the cube
you'll understand.........

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Tensions matter in every cube (i think)... Do as Future Cuber thinks, then loosen the tensions a lot... Feel the difference...