# Thread: Introduction + First upload, Average of 3

1. ## Introduction + First upload, Average of 3

Hello everyone, I'm Lucas and i'm a relatively new cuber, so iv'e decided to join a community of fellow logical folk and,most likely, introverts.

I"m from Gallatin, Tenneessee (US),and I've been solving the 3x3 now for about 4 months.

Around the end of May, my friend taught me how to solve the 3x3 using the beginner's CFOP method. I didn't have a cube at the time, but he let me use his store-bought to learn with during school and let me borrow it a few nights. As school ended and summer began, i was stuck cubeless and was constantly solving a virtual cube either on the internet or using the Rubik's app.
the beginning of summer, i could solve the (virtual) rubik's cube in about 2 minutes or less.

During June, i was CONSTANTLY doing solves on my friend's ipod, and by the end of june was averaging 50 seconds to a minute with the sparing sub 50 solve.
It wasn't actually till the beginning of July until i recieved my first store-bought cube!

i lubed and sanded the store bought and used it for a few weeks until i upgraded to a stickerless Guhong....unfortunately there is a fair amount of excess sillicone thats dryed on the pieces, which means the cube isnt at its full potential
During mid- july i began to start learning the more advanced/intermediate parts of CFOP.

I know currently use:

Intuitive F2L
2-look oll (with the exception of the headlights case,which i use a sune, anti-sune comb. to solve)

I solve pll with in 1 or 2 looks with the following perms: Aa, Ab, Ua, Ub, H, Z, E, Ja, Jb, and Y ( T is next on the to-do list....been kinda lazy)
My recognition

Im sub 40 and my averages can usually vary from 29-34 seconds

So today i decided to do a quick average of 3 for the sake of this intro:
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Times:
1. 24.55 - Anything that' sub 27 really is not THAT typical for me (got lucky and hit a j perm)
2. 29.13 - I hit a Y perm in the solve, and i just learned that!
3. 33.23 - had a 2 look pll case in this, had to do an E, followed by a U.

Final Average: 28.97
I'm currently aiming for a sub 20 average by november.....that would be cool.
I'll be sure to always refer to this forum for my cubing questions and needs, and its good to be apart of the cube-solving community.

Oh and a question for anyone who is reading this: How long did it take you to reach a sub 30 AVERAGE and what method must you use?

2. Welcome! You have some quite good improvement

You can use literally any method and probably get sub-30 eventually, it will be harder to do so with certain methods but it should be possible.

It took me 2+ years to reach sub-30 xD

3. What is your movecount?
I started with CFOP also and switched to petrus but now I use Roux!
Roux is a cool method with low movecount- for newbs like me around 55 and almost no cube rotations.
Best avg of 50: 26.33 after 3 months of roux.
Check it out it is worth looking in to

4. Hello! Nice solves! CFOP, Roux, and ZZ are all good choices for methods to go to from where you are at. It took me a 1-2 months to reach sub30 after I switched to ZZ from a similar method to what you're using now. At that time I averaged approximately 45 seconds.

CFOP- It's the most popular method. It can have a high movecount but is easy to learn and relatively easy to get fast with.
Roux-It's the most intuitive method of the three that I mentioned; only one step is algorithmic. It often has a low movecount. Involves lots of thinking, at least in the early stages, which is probably why it isn't as popular.
ZZ- I switched to this method for a few reasons: After EOLine, F2L is performed with only <R,U,L>. Also, after F2L is completed, the top edges are pre-oriented, allowing for many last layer options. Currently I use normal OLL/PLL, but it requires much less algorithms because edges are pre-oriented. However, EOLine can be a bit hard to get used to.

I may have been a little biased to ZZ there, but all of the above are good options. Try them all out and see which one you like best.

5. I started cubing in August, and I recently am getting sub-30 averages of 12, like in the past week or so.
You can use any method you feel comfortable with, but if you want to get good at it follow through with it, i.e. learn full OLL and PLL for CFOP, learn full CMLL for Roux, learn good lookahead, etc. You can't just switch to a method and expect to suddenly break all your PB's, but it is important to know which method suits you.

6. Originally Posted by F2LOL
2-look oll (with the exception of the headlights case,which i use a sune, anti-sune comb. to solve)
The sune, anti-sune is a recognised headlights case (with cancellations obviously).

Originally Posted by F2LOL
Oh and a question for anyone who is reading this: How long did it take you to reach a sub 30 AVERAGE and what method must you use?
Around 8 months with a 4LLL CFOP. However, full PLL is often needed to get sub-30.

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