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    Quote Originally Posted by theZcuber View Post
    9f14: If the averages are the same, then the sum can only be up to 0.01 off.
    But there still is a difference.
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    10e3: There is no +2 for FMC. It's solved or not solved. Stupid MBLD problem? The only problem is the +2 to +(n*2), which really isn't a problem
    I know there is no +2 for FMC, but it is not clearly stated in the regulations. And I think having a +2 penalty in blind doesn't make sense because it is against the "spirit" of blind solving. In blind you don't go as fast as in speedsolving, and I never saw someone get a +2 in blind because the cube was unintentionally misaligned. You can also use the penalty with M2 : if you don't remember if you have to do M2 or not, you can just do R2 at the end of the solve and get a +2 penalty instead of a DNF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theZcuber View Post
    10e3: There is no +2 for FMC. It's solved or not solved. Stupid MBLD problem? The only problem is the +2 to +(n*2), which really isn't a problem
    I disagree - there is a stupid multiBLD problem. The problem is what to do if someone reaches the maximum time for the solve and then has a +2. This is not handled by the regulations: does it get treated as valid but with +2 time, or does it get treated as DNF (because the time is then over the limit)? Ron has made a pronouncement on the WCA Forum, but it's not covered in the regulations. We need to solve this stupid multiBLD problem. One way of doing it would be to remove +2 penalties for multiBLD, saying anything over 45 degrees off is a DNF.

    If we're really going to allow stickerless cubes in BLD but not in speedsolving, that seems to justify the idea of having different rules for +2 as well between BLD and speedsolving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by @uguste View Post
    I never saw someone get a +2 in blind because the cube was unintentionally misaligned.
    I had +2 in blind on official competition once upon a time, and it was unintentionally.
    I would also suggest discussing this or other issues in specific threads (or you can create them if there is no), to make it simple for organizers collecting suggestions and questions ITT.


    QUESTION (don't know which section): What is the current status of pillowed 7x7 cubes?
    Here Ron told they are permitted at least until a cubic is generally available and widely used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrKorbin View Post
    QUESTION (don't know which section): What is the current status of pillowed 7x7 cubes?
    Here Ron told they are permitted at least until a cubic is generally available and widely used.
    Personally, I think that they should stay allowed. If they were to become banned, would it be the first original version of a cube that is not allowed in competition?
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    I get the feeling that we should have released the new regulations before starting that thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by DrKorbin View Post
    QUESTION (H): In multi-bld, if a competitor reaches his time limit, and some of his cubes have misalignment, are they treated as +2 or not solved?
    (It seems to me Ron has said they are not solved, but I can't provide a link).

    SUGGESTION (4d): If there is black and no white, the cube is scrambled black on top, green (or darkest adjanced color) on front.
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    SUGGESTION (2e1): Nationality is exactly a citizenship (i.e. you have a passport of this country (but how must young people who have no passport be treated?)), not membership of a nation in the sense of ethnic group.
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    SUGGESTION (5b): If a single corner twists in place, the competitor is allowed to twist it in place.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ickathu View Post
    Suggestion 4g) [?]: Scrambling orientation for non-cubic puzzles (e.g., pyra, mega): Lightest color on bottom, darkest adjacent color on front
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Hughey View Post
    Suggestion (3c): The rules for stickerless cubes should be the same for speedsolving and blindsolving - there should be no difference. I think I'd prefer that they be allowed, but the rules should be consistent either way.
    All this is either already implemented or in discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by theZcuber View Post
    If it stays within the 25% limit, then it was legal to send them both to finals. If it doesn't, neither can go. As it stands now, one can't go and one can, but they can both be held back
    Exactly this! There is no other logical way to treat this situation. But perhaps we should add the sum of all counting solves as criteria before better single...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastien View Post
    I get the feeling that we should have released the new regulations before starting that thread...
    I don't think anyone would have a problem with the WRC releasing a draft version to the public, which could take care of a lot of issues already brought up
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    QUESTION (1f2) I know this should probably fall under discretion of the main judge, but what if a competitor doesn't know notation for a specific event? In particular, I can think of a few events that this could apply to, namely megaminx and clock (and perhaps even square-1).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranzha V. Emodrach View Post
    QUESTION (1f2) I know this should probably fall under discretion of the main judge, but what if a competitor doesn't know notation for a specific event? In particular, I can think of a few events that this could apply to, namely megaminx and clock (and perhaps even square-1).
    Magics lol
    if you don't know the notation for a specific puzzle, there's a good chance you don't know how to solve it. I think it's generally accepted that not knowing the notation for a puzzle because you simply don't know how to solve it, is a valid excuse not to scramble for that event.

    But I guess this could be clarified in the guidelines.
    Last edited by hcfong; 06-27-2012 at 11:01 PM.

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    Well, why should there be 'excuses' not to scramble etc? Won't there be enough volunteers anyway?
    Also I am one of those who doesn't really know how to read sq1 notation but can solve it, albeit slowly. Megaminx too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranzha V. Emodrach View Post
    QUESTION (1f2) I know this should probably fall under discretion of the main judge, but what if a competitor doesn't know notation for a specific event? In particular, I can think of a few events that this could apply to, namely megaminx and clock (and perhaps even square-1).
    Magics lol
    what we do is have a person than knows how to scramble scramble for the fastest person or two and when they are done they start scrambling

    for example at the last comp Justin scrambled for me and when i was done he scrambled for Neil and Neil and I scrambled most of the cubes after because we are so much faster at it.



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    QUESTION
    3l) Cube puzzles must have at most one logo. For Rubik's Cube or bigger cube puzzles the logo must be placed on one of the centre pieces.

    what about square1s?
    Last edited by vcuber13; 06-28-2012 at 09:33 AM.
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