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sneaklyfox · Sep 25, 2014

MarcelP said:
But the problem is that without U' doing the alg the bar will not end up on a face that I will reconize. For example bar is red, but is placed on a blue side. I have no clue now to do a U or U' after doing PLL. If I had learned the alg with U', then I could have known what to do after PLL, simply before starting the PLL by looking where the red side is.

Ok, let me try to explain again by doing the example you mentioned. So, have a solved cube with the red side on the L face and yellow side on U face. Do the J perm alg. Now do a y' because that's how you need it to be before you perform your alg to solve the case. So, bar is on the left, but we actually don't care that the red bar is on the blue face. Now note the 1x2 colour on the F face. It should be orange, on a red side. Orange is opposite red so after your alg you need a U2. I hope this explains it.

MarcelP · Sep 25, 2014

sneaklyfox said:
Ok, let me try to explain again by doing the example you mentioned. So, have a solved cube with the red side on the L face and yellow side on U face. Do the J perm alg. Now do a y' because that's how you need it to be before you perform your alg to solve the case. So, bar is on the left, but we actually don't care that the red bar is on the blue face. Now note the 1x2 colour on the F face. It should be orange, on a red side. Orange is opposite red so after your alg you need a U2. I hope this explains it.

Brilliant!! I get it now. Thanks a s lot.

mark49152 · Sep 26, 2014

Just returned from a long cubing break, and on my 4th session, smashed all PBs, including my first sub-20 ao50!

Ao50: 19.71 - Ao12: 18.80 - Ao5: 17.62

I've only done about 500 timed solves in total since mid-July so I'm surprised and really pleased. Maybe I should take a break more often.

sneaklyfox · Sep 26, 2014

How long was your cubing break?

MarcelP · Sep 26, 2014

mark49152 said:
Just returned from a long cubing break, and on my 4th session, smashed all PBs, including my first sub-20 ao50!

Ao50: 19.71 - Ao12: 18.80 - Ao5: 17.62

I've only done about 500 timed solves in total since mid-July so I'm surprised and really pleased. Maybe I should take a break more often.

Congrats Mark, To compare, my Ao50 today was 19.93

Today you are faster LOL.. Nice PB's man! Now start serious practice again please...

mark49152 · Sep 26, 2014

sneaklyfox said:
How long was your cubing break?

A couple of months, although it wasn't a total break. I have still picked up a cube here and there, although often not for a week or two. I've logged 200 solves in the last four days, and before that only about 350 scattered in the two months since mid-July. I was doing a few hundred per week before that. My averages for the other sessions this week were in the 21's.

MarcelP said:
Congrats Mark, To compare, my Ao50 today was 19.93 Today you are faster LOL.. Nice PB's man! Now start serious practice again please...

I am chasing your sub-20 ao100

. Great that we are both making progress.

MarcelP · Sep 27, 2014

mark49152 said:
I am chasing your sub-20 ao100 . Great that we are both making progress.

Time to update signature?

mark49152 · Sep 27, 2014

MarcelP said:
Time to update signature?

I guess so, although I think that was an unrepresentatively good run. I was on fire for an hour, but now back to 21-ish. Oh well I guess that's how PBs work

Rocky0701 · Sep 27, 2014

Good job Mark! Long breaks actually really help. I hadn't timed more than like 5 solves at a time since like mid August when school started, and like a week ago started back up again. Now I am pretty much sub 20 after getting a sub 20 ao500 so they help. Also, when you guys first got Aosus, did your times really start jumping down? I have been very due to get one and finally did. I was averaging like sub 1:30 on my modded SS, and this morning my Aosu came. I have only done about 30 solves, but have already taken 10 seconds off of my PB ao12 and 4 seconds off of my PB single. I am in love with it so far.

sneaklyfox · Sep 27, 2014

mark49152 said:
I guess so, although I think that was an unrepresentatively good run. I was on fire for an hour, but now back to 21-ish. Oh well I guess that's how PBs work

Exactly. I just got a good run too which got me a new PB Ao5! 13.22, 10.76, 11.07, (9.30), (13.78) = 11.68! Now if only I could beat my PB Ao12...

Rocky0701 · Sep 27, 2014

sneaklyfox said:
Exactly. I just got a good run too which got me a new PB Ao5! 13.22, 10.76, 11.07, (9.30), (13.78) = 11.68! Now if only I could beat my PB Ao12...

Nice! What did your first sub 10 single feel like?

mark49152 · Sep 27, 2014

sneaklyfox said:
Exactly. I just got a good run too which got me a new PB Ao5! 13.22, 10.76, 11.07, (9.30), (13.78) = 11.68! Now if only I could beat my PB Ao12...

Congrats - you are getting really fast now!

Rocky0701 said:
Also, when you guys first got Aosus, did your times really start jumping down?

Yeah it is just so much nicer to turn. I just never did enough solves on my Weisu to break it in past the sluggish phase, and my SS was always too catchy (too lazy to mod it).

Been doing some Jarcs training tonight. Have a go at solving these crosses and see if you can find a solution of the length specified. Scramble with cross colour on bottom.

D2 U L2 B' D L2 F' R D R' F' B U F' R F R L2 F2 L' U2 L2 F' D' B2 (6f*)

D2 R' D2 F R' B2 F' R' U B2 D' U' F R B2 U2 D L R' F' L' B' F2 L' R' (5f*)

L F' D2 B' D' R F2 U2 L2 R2 U2 F D' L' D' U F D F2 D2 U2 F B L2 D2 (6f*)

U2 R B' F2 L2 U' R2 D' R' L B D' F D U' R' B' R2 D2 L' D' R2 D' U' B (5f*)

R2 D2 L' D2 F2 B2 D2 F' R' F2 B' R F2 U2 F D F2 B2 L2 R' U' L F' R2 L (6f*)

B' U L' B' R D' B F U' L2 R' U' F' R2 D2 L2 U' F U D' B F L2 U R (6f*)

moralsh · Sep 27, 2014

Good luck tomorrow, Marcel, please beat me!

Rocky0701 · Sep 28, 2014

mark49152 said:
Congrats - you are getting really fast now!

Yeah it is just so much nicer to turn. I just never did enough solves on my Weisu to break it in past the sluggish phase, and my SS was always too catchy (too lazy to mod it).

Been doing some Jarcs training tonight. Have a go at solving these crosses and see if you can find a solution of the length specified. Scramble with cross colour on bottom.

D2 U L2 B' D L2 F' R D R' F' B U F' R F R L2 F2 L' U2 L2 F' D' B2 (6f*)

D2 R' D2 F R' B2 F' R' U B2 D' U' F R B2 U2 D L R' F' L' B' F2 L' R' (5f*)

L F' D2 B' D' R F2 U2 L2 R2 U2 F D' L' D' U F D F2 D2 U2 F B L2 D2 (6f*)

U2 R B' F2 L2 U' R2 D' R' L B D' F D U' R' B' R2 D2 L' D' R2 D' U' B (5f*)

R2 D2 L' D2 F2 B2 D2 F' R' F2 B' R F2 U2 F D F2 B2 L2 R' U' L F' R2 L (6f*)

B' U L' B' R D' B F U' L2 R' U' F' R2 D2 L2 U' F U D' B F L2 U R (6f*)

1. 4
2. Nope
3. 6
4. 5
5. 6
6. Nope
Are you dual neutral? If not, it helps definitely, and it's really easy to learn.

mark49152 · Sep 28, 2014

Rocky0701 said:
1. 4
2. Nope
3. 6
4. 5
5. 6
6. Nope
Are you dual neutral? If not, it helps definitely, and it's really easy to learn.

I'm not dual neutral, but anyway the point of the exercise is to find the optimal solution for whatever colour you had on the bottom when scrambling. Choosing a different colour is evading the challenge

.

I did maybe 20-30 "cross FMCs" today, and in most cases my first solution was either optimal or one move over, and where I was one move over, I found the optimal solution in one or two more tries, quite easily. These six above were the ones that took me longer to find. Just curious what you guys make of them!

Rocky0701 · Sep 28, 2014

mark49152 said:
I'm not dual neutral, but anyway the point of the exercise is to find the optimal solution for whatever colour you had on the bottom when scrambling. Choosing a different colour is evading the challenge .

I did maybe 20-30 "cross FMCs" today, and in most cases my first solution was either optimal or one move over, and where I was one move over, I found the optimal solution in one or two more tries, quite easily. These six above were the ones that took me longer to find. Just curious what you guys make of them!

Oh, ok. Yeah I was doing them on yellow as well. That's why I was wondering because other than 2. and 6. they were pretty easy. I will try them again just on white.

sneaklyfox · Sep 28, 2014

Rocky0701 said:
Nice! What did your first sub 10 single feel like?

Very very awesome. Big fist pump.

mark49152 said:
Been doing some Jarcs training tonight. Have a go at solving these crosses and see if you can find a solution of the length specified. Scramble with cross colour on bottom.

1. D2 U L2 B' D L2 F' R D R' F' B U F' R F R L2 F2 L' U2 L2 F' D' B2 (6f*)

2. D2 R' D2 F R' B2 F' R' U B2 D' U' F R B2 U2 D L R' F' L' B' F2 L' R' (5f*)

3. L F' D2 B' D' R F2 U2 L2 R2 U2 F D' L' D' U F D F2 D2 U2 F B L2 D2 (6f*)

4. U2 R B' F2 L2 U' R2 D' R' L B D' F D U' R' B' R2 D2 L' D' R2 D' U' B (5f*)

5. R2 D2 L' D2 F2 B2 D2 F' R' F2 B' R F2 U2 F D F2 B2 L2 R' U' L F' R2 L (6f*)

6. B' U L' B' R D' B F U' L2 R' U' F' R2 D2 L2 U' F U D' B F L2 U R (6f*)

1. yup
2. nope, 6
3. nope, 7
4. yup
5. yup
6. yup

Do you have solutions for these?

MarcelP · Sep 28, 2014

Rocky0701 said:
Also, when you guys first got Aosus, did your times really start jumping down?

No my times went up. My modded SS was way faster. But after a while I got used to the Aosu and now I can't stand the SS anymore

sneaklyfox said:
Exactly. I just got a good run too which got me a new PB Ao5! 13.22, 10.76, 11.07, (9.30), (13.78) = 11.68! Now if only I could beat my PB Ao12...

Woahhh,, sub 10 in there also.. Awesome.

moralsh said:
Good luck tomorrow, Marcel, please beat me!

Thanks! I will do my best. I feel perfectly rested, not nervous.. So let's see what will happen

mark49152 · Sep 28, 2014

You have a comp today Marcel? Good luck!

Edit: I see you on cubecomps - sub-25 average and 17 single, and only the first round down! Way to go Marcel!

Edit2: and 22.36 average in second round - congrats!

Rocky0701 · Sep 28, 2014

Rocky0701 said:
1. 4
2. Nope
3. 6
4. 5
5. 6
6. Nope
Are you dual neutral? If not, it helps definitely, and it's really easy to learn.

Here are my news ones, I allowed myself 2 tries per cross.
1. Yup
2. Yup
3. Nope 7
4. Yup X cross haha
5. Yup, that one was hard thoough
6. No, 7

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