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    Quote Originally Posted by cubenut99 View Post
    NO, wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the 3x3 event?
    NO, that wouldn't defeat the purpose of the 3x3 event
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    It really does sound like an enjoyable event.
    The number of cubes could be set, or at least limited, to prevent competitors from bringing too many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noahaha View Post
    I would rather see an event that requires different skills like a 2-5 relay. Then you see who's good at many events.
    Unfortunately no. We would only see who's good at the biggest cube of the relay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMOY View Post
    Unfortunately no. We would only see who's good at the biggest cube of the relay.
    Absolutely. The larger the relay, the less 3x3 counts, and this sorta weakens the argument that 2-n (4,5,6,7, whateva) relays are better than 3x3 relays because we are overrepresenting 3x3 and not showing your all round skill if we had all-3 relays. The contrary happens in 2-n relays. For example, I am fast at 3x3 but when doing a relay it's rendered almost negligible because of such longer times for other cubes. Especially on -7 relays where even the 3x3 stage on the 777 counts for little.

    Maybe we could have relays where each cubesize was equally represented. This is subjective though... For me it'd be 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-3-4. Thinkinh about this, actually it's kinda silly.

    What's wrong with an event which doesn't require you to have many different skills?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5BLD View Post
    Absolutely. The larger the relay, the less 3x3 counts, and this sorta weakens the argument that 2-n (4,5,6,7, whateva) relays are better than 3x3 relays because we are overrepresenting 3x3 and not showing your all round skill if we had all-3 relays. The contrary happens in 2-n relays. For example, I am fast at 3x3 but when doing a relay it's rendered almost negligible because of such longer times for other cubes. Especially on -7 relays where even the 3x3 stage on the 777 counts for little.

    Maybe we could have relays where each cubesize was equally represented. This is subjective though... For me it'd be 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-3-4. Thinkinh about this, actually it's kinda silly.

    What's wrong with an event which doesn't require you to have many different skills?
    I have twenty lanlan 2x2 in my closet in case you are interested.

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    How about non-cube relays like pyraminx, megaminx, sq1, clock.

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    this is a stupid thread because its obvious its not going to get added. even something sensible like skewb wasn't added, so this definitely won't be.
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    Are you in UK? I would be actually interested in buying them.

    On: How would we sort out inspection if we had relays?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranzha V. Emodrach View Post
    EDIT: Also, what sets 3x3 relays at a higher significance to be added than any other proposed event (Skewb; Team BLDp; 2x2 BLD; Gigaminx blind, underwater, while skydiving, with one foot, in a dress; etc.)
    Lol in a dress. I think it's only significant because 3x3s are among the most available of puzzles, but other than that not really. If I had the ability to consider which events are official, I'd consider them all in order of how popular they are among cubers.

    Quote Originally Posted by RNewms27 View Post
    That's the thing. Maybe a 2 minute limit would be suffice. At a rate of 6 cubes per minute for top cubers, there would be 12 solves. It still seems like a large amount, but it is better than 60. It is also nice to have an event that has each person complete the round in 2 minutes.
    I think 2 minutes would be too short, since even in the luckiest cases with the fastest cubers, I doubt they will surpass 20 cubes. Also, with the number of possible results, you might end up seeing like a 5-way tie at 12 solves or something between Feliks, Rowe, Michal, etc. 10 minutes should be good enough.
    Quote Originally Posted by Czery View Post
    How about non-cube relays like pyraminx, megaminx, sq1, clock.
    Eh, 3x3 seems to be the most extensive event, with official ones including BLD, OH, feet, and FMC, so why not build on that?
    PBs (3x3): 6.80 (3x3 nl): 7.91 (2x2): 1.10 (3x3 OH): 24.80 (4x4): 58.08 (5x5): 1:35.23
    3x3 ao5/12/50/100: 10.86/11.79/12.65/12.81

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    10 minutes is good enough? Most of us, even those who are fast don't even own that many to use up the full 10 minutes.
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    Good point. Maybe it should just be a time limit of 2 minutes, but then there's gonna be a lot of ties....
    My solution to reduce the number of ties is to rank the competitors by number of solved cubes first, then the total solve time (they may stop before the 2 minute mark). If they end up attempting another 3x3 but don't finish it by the time the 2 minutes are up, then the number of cubes solved will be counted and the solve time will be 2 minutes.

    Is it just me, or has this already been established for multiBLD? :/
    PBs (3x3): 6.80 (3x3 nl): 7.91 (2x2): 1.10 (3x3 OH): 24.80 (4x4): 58.08 (5x5): 1:35.23
    3x3 ao5/12/50/100: 10.86/11.79/12.65/12.81

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