Will you pay 60 dollars for the CamCuber Zhanchi?

**Godmil** · 06-11-2012

Originally Posted by maxyso

and he is actually doing what he says.

But what he says is rediculous... about having a special lubing technique that will last for a year and help break the cube in.. etc. He's suggesting that he's doing something totally unique, and that everyone who's tried his cube has been amazed that it feels better than normal ZhanChi's.... and the only way to get it is to pay a premium.

I mean it's not the end of the world, many companies charge extortionate prices for cheap products. If you can do it, then that's great business (in a away),but you've also gatta be aware that there will be a backlash and criticism.

Also saying that it was only high priced to limit the quantity... instead of just, I dunno... limiting the quantity, is a bit rubbish. Clearly he wanted to just capitalise on something that he thinks is unique... which is fine, like I said "good business", but still you're going to see criticism for it.. and in small communities like this criticism seems to go a long way.

**camcuber** · 06-11-2012

Originally Posted by Godmil

But what he says is rediculous... about having a special lubing technique that will last for a year and help break the cube in.. etc. He's suggesting that he's doing something totally unique, and that everyone who's tried his cube has been amazed that it feels better than normal ZhanChi's.... and the only way to get it is to pay a premium.

I mean it's not the end of the world, many companies charge extortionate prices for cheap products. If you can do it, then that's great business (in a away),but you've also gatta be aware that there will be a backlash and criticism.

Also saying that it was only high priced to limit the quantity... instead of just, I dunno... limiting the quantity, is a bit rubbish. Clearly he wanted to just capitalise on something that he thinks is unique... which is fine, like I said "good business", but still you're going to see criticism for it.. and in small communities like this criticism seems to go a long way.

Thanks for taking the time to put in your input. I do, however, have an answer to what you said. I am not sure exactly how many people wanted to buy this cube. I estimated around 20-30 but did not just want to make 20-30 cubes and hope that they were the ones to obtain them. Each of those people offered me $50-$60 for the cube, so I priced it accordingly.

**Godmil** · 06-11-2012

Originally Posted by camcuber

Each of those people offered me $50-$60 for the cube, so I priced it accordingly.

fair enough.

**Goosly** · 06-11-2012

Originally Posted by camcuber

Each of those people offered me $50-$60 for the cube, so I priced it accordingly.

They offered $50-$60 for a non-modded ZhanChi? We really need some reviews here

**Kirjava** · 06-11-2012

Originally Posted by PhillipEspinoza

lol people complaining about a product they haven't even bought, criticizing that it's nothing special, then demanding that Cameron share that not so special secret with the world. Surely your lives, or lack thereof, will continue regardless of the price of Cameron's cube.

This product is damaging to the image of the community.

Originally Posted by PhillipEspinoza

I know some cubers who don't believe in sharing every single technique they have, but that doesn't make them selfish.

Yes it does. Selfishness is putting your own interests before the interests of others.

**TomWood** · 06-11-2012

dont think not sharing a lubing technique is selfish at all. Who cares if someone comes up with something they like for a feel they like, and if cameron is on to something that people want to buy and own then fine. There is SO much information for us aall out there, algorithims, methods sooooo much. When it comes to maintenence and techniques involved with ones cube, a few little secrets here and there is not a problem, cubing is still competitive and so is owning a shop/business to do with cubing. Im in no way offended by someone keeping a lubing technique secret at all, hes not neccesarily keeping the lube itself a secret he sells it all on his shop. Who cares if people keep things like lubing tehniques to themsleves, I think it's sad that people care that much. Theres nothng wrong with keeping some things to yourself and my opinion its especially ok when youve given as much to the community as Cameron, If he wasnt selling his cube in a shop, noone would care how he lubed it, the fact that he is still isnt a reason to care, just dont buy it and stick to your lubing technique if you have a problem with buying his.

**Kirjava** · 06-11-2012

Originally Posted by TomWood

Im in no way offended by someone keeping a lubing technique secret at all, hes not neccesarily keeping the lube itself a secret he sells it all on his shop. Who cares if people keep things like lubing tehniques to themsleves, I think it's sad that people care that much.

I'm not offended that he's keeping his lubing technique secret, I'm complaining about it because it's vapourware.

Originally Posted by TomWood

Theres nothng wrong with keeping some things to yourself

There's nothing wrong with being selfish, but that doesn't make it selfless.

Originally Posted by TomWood

its especially ok when youve given as much to the community as Cameron

Yes, donating products to competitions to advertise your store is truly a major contribution.

**TomWood** · 06-11-2012

Originally Posted by Kirjava

Yes, donating products to competitions to advertise your store is truly a major contribution.

Im not talking about that, his videos for a start have influenced me massively and are the reason I'm into different cubes and speedcubing as a whole, understand you may not share that influence but he has dedicated a lot of videos (over 400) to cubing and his store has good service and good prices