Thread: Developing a better LL system

1. Originally Posted by cmowla
Maybe I missed something, but, by looking at the raw data table, you seem to have dozens of algorithms for each case. How are you (or anyone else) supposed to organize theses cases by algorithms if there is more than one alg listed for each case? I might be interested in helping, but I don't know where to start because of this.
What I've been doing is taking the list of all cases, and removing the cases that start with a specific algorithm. So first, I took all cases that start with Sune and seperated them into their own group. The rest of the combinations are ignored.

Originally Posted by LarsN
Sounds great. Are there any news on a potential recognition method?
Hm.

Not yet. I was going to look to find patterns after the data is organised in this format. However, I was talking to someone on IRC last night and after it's done this way will look into doing a flowcharting based system instead. I have a lot of ideas for this, and I can imagine by the time this is finished the data will be explorable in a plethora of different ways.

2. What about applying this system to the 2x2 cube?
With only 40 cases for CLL, it could serve as a nice test of the idea before completing the whole 3x3 version. And I'm curious how nice the algs would be.

3. I've been able to do 'this system' on 2x2x2 for like 6 years. It's just niklas/sune/fruruf combinations.

4. Originally Posted by Kirjava
I've been able to do 'this system' on 2x2x2 for like 6 years. It's just niklas/sune/fruruf combinations.
Do you have documentation for that!?

5. It doesn't really need to be documented. Most of the time you do CP then CO or CO then CP and it'll get it in two algs. You just have to learn the combos.

6. Still working on this?

7. Kir's brain is too busy

I prefer the "guide" to "brute forcing" optimal 2x2x2 and 2x2x3 anyway.

8. Originally Posted by irontwig
Still working on this?
Not as much as I was doing, as Nats is coming up and I've been doing a lot of practise.

However, I should get in some sort of releasable state soon.

Sorry for the delays. Life, etc. You're free to help out if you want to.

9. heh. thanks for the nudge.

sunk another hour or two into this today and have about 48% of cases complete.

by complete, I mean listed by alg. once this is fully done, I'll release it.

that'll be version 1! after that, work will be done on moving cases around, finding patterns, and removing isomorphic cases.

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