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    Default 15.09 3x3 Average of 5- Nick Rech



    Improving slowly but surely. I have a sub-15 Ao100, but I suck at getting good averages on film. Oh well. Tips would be very much appreciated. :3
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    You turn really fast o.O

    Nice solves, but you seem to do a lot of extraneous U/U's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyoubx View Post
    You turn really fast o.O

    Nice solves, but you seem to do a lot of extraneous U/U's.
    Lol, thank you, I suppose! xD I do need to work a bit on lookahead at this speed.

    And yeah, I think that goes along with the lookahead, not being able to see the next pair fast enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divineskulls View Post
    Lol, thank you, I suppose! xD I do need to work a bit on lookahead at this speed.

    And yeah, I think that goes along with the lookahead, not being able to see the next pair fast enough.
    Yeah, you could achieve the same times with something like 4tps

    I'm not great at lookahead either, though.

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    Try this:

    Do solves where you have your eyes closed during the cross, then open them and look for the first pair. Close your eyes and solve the pair, open and look for the second, etc., then do your LL normally. See if your times are much slower. If you're looking ahead while turning at all, they should be slower because you have your eyes closed. If your times are about the same, then that means you're barely looking ahead at all.

    Being good at looking ahead and being good and finding the next pair are separate things. Being really good at looking ahead means you are starting to look for the next pair the moment you start solving the current one. Being really good at finding the next pair means as soon as you start looking, you see it.

    So, two scenarios:

    1. Really good look ahead, terrible at finding the pair. This can result in huge pauses between pairs, even with really good look ahead. The "looking ahead" happens as soon as the current pair solve is started, but it takes longer to find the next pair than it takes to solve the current one due to poor ability to find the next pair.

    2. Really good pair finding, terrible look ahead. This can actually result much shorter pauses, because even though the look ahead only starts when the current pair is complete, the next pair is found immediately.

    I think scenario two is the one that most people naturally end up with. This is because no ones starts CFOP with knowledge of every F2L case, and therefore needs to watch and think about it as they're doing them. Then, they look for the next pair. So, not only does the habit of focusing on your current pair become very strong, but they're only practicing pair finding when the cube isn't turning. I say habit because even once a person is able to not have to focus on the current pair, they will still tend to.

    My tip now would be that, since you are clearly at a point where your hands just know how to solve each case, do a lot of solves with this process:

    1. Inspect cross, look for a corner edge pair to follow.

    2. Start solve and track the pair trying to focus on them as much as possible, and on your cross solve as little as possible.

    3. As soon as your cross is done and you see where the corner and edge ended up, take note of the color of the pair (the two side colors) and where it's slot is.

    4. Close your eyes and "feel" the muscle memory, which you clearly have with that TPS (but go slower!).

    5. Open your eyes and, as soon as you do, start doing what you "felt" in your head, while focusing 100% on looking for another corner and edge pair.

    6+. Repeat the process for each pair, including the fourth while looking ahead to the OLL as it forms. Do the same for OLL -> PLL if you can do two sided PLL recognition.

    The idea behind the process is that you are forcing yourself look ahead while the cube is turning, so you gain practice in finding the pair while it's turning, but you also get yourself into the good habit of "feeling" the next muscle memory instead of focusing on it.

    I was talking in a tone of fact, but it's all just my opinion and experience of course. Let us know how it works out if you decide to try it.

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    Awesome, thank you for taking so much time on your post, I really appreciate it! I will definitely work on your process, it seems like it will help my lookahead AND pair finding a lot!
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    1st solve:
    D2 R2 B2 L2 R' B F U' F2 U R' F2 R' U2 R D' B' R

    y' // inspection
    r' U' R F' U x' R2 L2' // cross
    y2' R U' R' U y' U R' U' R R' R U' R' U R // 1st pair
    y2' U' R U2' R' U2 R U' R' // 2nd pair
    y U U2' (R U R' U')2 d' L' U L // 3rd pair
    U3' x R' U U' R R' U R U' x' R U' R' // 4th pair
    U' r U R' U R U' r' r U' r' // OLL
    U U' (y x) R' U R' D2 R U' R' D2 R2 // PLL
    View at alg.garron.us
    Code:
    Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps	
    Total	15.44	76	4.92	94	6.09	
    						
    Cross+1	4.64	20	4.31	25	5.39	
    F2L	10.90	54	4.95	69	6.33	
    LL	4.54	22	4.85	25	5.51	
    						
    %						
    Step		Time	STM	ETM		
    Cross+1/F2L	43%	37%	36%			
    F2L/Total	71%	71%	73%
    2nd solve:
    D' F2 L2 B' D' U2 F2 U L D2 B L D B R' D F B2

    y x' // inspection
    U l U y2' R' U l' U2 x' // cross
    U2' R' U R // 1st pair
    R U' R' U R U2' R' U R U' R' // 2nd pair
    y' U y' U' x R' U R U' x' R U' R' // 3rd pair
    y U (R U R' U')2 R U R' // 4th pair
    U' r' U r2 U' r2' U' r2 U r' // OLL
    U3 R R2' U' R2 U R U R' U' R U R2 U' U R' U' R U' R' U2 // PLL
    View at alg.garron.us
    Code:
    Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps	
    Total	14.71	74	5.03	86	5.85	
    						
    Cross+1	3.21	11	3.43	15	4.67	
    F2L	8.15	43	5.28	52	6.38	
    LL	6.56	31	4.73	34	5.18	
    						
    %						
    Step		Time	STM	ETM		
    Cross+1/F2L	39%	26%	29%			
    F2L/Total	55%	58%	60%
    3rd solve:
    F2 R2 U2 B L' B L' F R2 D' F2 R2 D' B' U' B2 L'

    y x2 // inspection
    U' L' y' R2' D2 // cross
    U3' L' U L R' U2 R d' L' U L // 1st pair
    U y d' U' R U R' U R U R' U' d' L' U L // 2nd pair
    y2' (U' R U R')3 // 3rd pair
    y' U R U R' U' R U R' // 4th pair
    U2' l' U l U l' U' l y' R U' R' // OLL
    U R U' R U R U R U' R' U' R2 // PLL
    View at alg.garron.us
    Code:
    Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps	
    Total	14.28	72	5.04	82	5.74	
    						
    Cross+1	4.47	14	3.13	18	4.03	
    F2L	9.31	49	5.26	57	6.12	
    LL	4.97	23	4.63	25	5.03	
    						
    %						
    Step		Time	STM	ETM		
    Cross+1/F2L	48%	29%	32%			
    F2L/Total	65%	68%	70%
    4th solve:
    B U2 B L' R2 D' B2 D' L F R U' L2 U2 B' D' F R'

    z2 // inspection
    U' r U' r' R' U L2' // cross
    y' R U R' U' (U' R U R')2 // 1st pair
    U' y' R' F' R U R U' R' F // 2nd pair
    y2' U U' R' U R U' y U' R U R' // 3rd pair
    y' U y' U R' U2' R U' R' U R // 4th pair
    U' r U R' U' r' F R F' // OLL
    U R U' R' R U R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' f (S' F) F' R2 U' R' U2 U' // PLL
    View at alg.garron.us
    Code:
    Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps	
    Total	16.36	81	4.95	90	5.50	
    						
    Cross+1	3.09	18	5.83	20	6.47	
    F2L	7.92	46	5.81	55	6.94	
    LL	8.44	35	4.15	35	4.15	
    						
    %						
    Step		Time	STM	ETM		
    Cross+1/F2L	39%	39%	36%			
    F2L/Total	48%	57%	61%
    5th solve:
    L' D2 R2 B2 D2 B L2 B' L R2 F D' R U' L' D' B' F' U

    z2 // inspection
    r' U' r' l U' (R' l') D2 // cross
    U' U R' U R U' R' U' R // 1st pair
    U R U R' U2' (R U R' U')2 // 2nd pair
    y' U R U R' x (R' U R U')2 x' // 3rd pair
    y' U' R U' R' U y' R' U' R // 4th pair
    U' R U R' U U' U R U' R' U' x R' U R U' x' // OLL
    U U' R2' u R' U R' U' R u' R2 y L' U L U2 // PLL
    View at alg.garron.us
    Code:
    Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps	
    Total	15.11	79	5.23	88	5.82	
    						
    Cross+1	4.37	16	3.66	16	3.66	
    F2L	9.18	49	5.34	55	5.99	
    LL	5.93	30	5.06	33	5.56	
    						
    %						
    Step		Time	STM	ETM		
    Cross+1/F2L	48%	33%	29%			
    F2L/Total	61%	62%	63%
    Statistics:
    Code:
    Average (5/5)						
    						
    Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps	
    Total	15.18	76	5.03	88	5.80	
    						
    Cross+1	3.96	16	3.99	19	4.75	
    F2L	11.09	48	4.35	58	5.19	
    LL	4.09	28	6.90	30	7.44	
    						
    %						
    Step		Time	STM	ETM		
    Cross+1/F2L	36%	33%	33%			
    F2L/Total	73%	63%	65%
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    4th Solve
    U R U' R' R U R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' f (S' F) F' R2 U' R' U2 U' // PLL
    Nick, is this for real? I tried to do this in reverse and I think it is supposed to be a J-perm. Why choose such a painful alg? Try this: (R U R' F') (R U R' U') (R' F) (R2 U') (R' U')
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    [QUOTE=Brest;740885] Reconstruction [QUOTE]
    Thank you so much!
    Quote Originally Posted by CoryThigpen View Post
    Nick, is this for real? I tried to do this in reverse and I think it is supposed to be a J-perm. Why choose such a painful alg? Try this: (R U R' F') (R U R' U') (R' F) (R2 U') (R' U')
    Haha, I do use that, I must have screwed up the first few moves and the F. xD
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    Wow dominate, one of the most helpful posts I have read, thanks a lot!
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