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    I did this mod along with some corner modifications. The cube feels creamier now. Once you get the exact right tension it's nice. I was able to get a sub 2 min ave of 5 with it. I'm usually 2.05-2.15 pb in the 1:4x range.

    I'm going to put some un-modded corners on it and see if that changes it.
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    I did this mod on Saturday along with Florian's mod. It has improved the cube a lot, I'd recommend everyone do it and make sure they take their time so it turns out good.
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    do you guys know what's wrong with my ss 4x4.
    i have tensions which the cube came and during last 3 weeks it has lock ups but never pops. few moments ago it didnt pop it exploded. 1\4 of cube just dissapeared. i had to bring it back together. why it popped so hard.it never has something like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt View Post
    do you guys know what's wrong with my ss 4x4.
    i have tensions which the cube came and during last 3 weeks it has lock ups but never pops. few moments ago it didnt pop it exploded. 1\4 of cube just dissapeared. i had to bring it back together. why it popped so hard.it never has something like that
    Have you ever disassemble it? I can't think of any reason. Maybe you can show us pictures of your cube? Btw, I'm quite sure that people who thinks SS 4x4s are hard to assemble have never assembled a V Cube 6 before. Really, Maru 4x4s are way harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt View Post
    do you guys know what's wrong with my ss 4x4.
    i have tensions which the cube came and during last 3 weeks it has lock ups but never pops. few moments ago it didnt pop it exploded. 1\4 of cube just dissapeared. i had to bring it back together. why it popped so hard.it never has something like that
    I have had similar problems, but don't worry, it happens extremely rarely.

    What I have found is that when one is doing inner-outer turns (such as during OLL parity) this will (extremely rarely) happen. It will also happen if your cube is extremely loose.

    Thus, if it is happening a lot, tighten your cube, if it happens next-to never, just try to figure out when it happens, and turn more accurately during that time.

    (By the way, this all comes from pure experience with my SSV3, not from speculation or anything)

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    thanks for the advice. It happens very rarely for me and happend during E-slice edge pairing. I wanted to solve last 2 edges, when I performed second move after D it exploded :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt View Post
    thanks for the advice. It happens very rarely for me and happend during E-slice edge pairing. I wanted to solve last 2 edges, when I performed second move after D it exploded :P
    Yeah, your D move (I assume you mean Dw) was probably inaccurate, and so when you started to do outer layer turns, the core pieces that hold the cube together (tw ones to mod in the Konsta mod) were not in line, and so it exploded. Try to improve your turning accuracy and everything will be fine.

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    So I did this mod along with Florian's mod about a month ago and even though I did notice a big improvement with the internal mod regarding internal lock-ups, with the external pieces' mod it started to lock-up again.
    Outer layers move perfectly, very fast and nearly lock free, but the internals tend to catch up with a ''creamy'' feeling to it.
    I'm afraid I may have modded it too much, taking extra plastic in some pieces and thus making it unstable, or maybe I just have really bad tensions right now. Who knows.
    My question being, has anyone had a similar problem, and if so how did you do?
    It feels as if the internal pieces were catching on to each other when there's a slight misalignment with the outer faces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RTh View Post
    So I did this mod along with Florian's mod about a month ago and even though I did notice a big improvement with the internal mod regarding internal lock-ups, with the external pieces' mod it started to lock-up again.
    Outer layers move perfectly, very fast and nearly lock free, but the internals tend to catch up with a ''creamy'' feeling to it.
    I'm afraid I may have modded it too much, taking extra plastic in some pieces and thus making it unstable, or maybe I just have really bad tensions right now. Who knows.
    My question being, has anyone had a similar problem, and if so how did you do?
    It feels as if the internal pieces were catching on to each other when there's a slight misalignment with the outer faces.
    Having over modded your pieces certainly wouldn't result in lock-ups, but rather in pops. The problem is more likely that your cube is overly loose, or overly tight, so I would suggest messing around with the tensions until you find a comfortable one.

    And anyways, inner layers only really matter during centers and parity algorithms, which are much easier to get fast than edge-paring and 3x3 stage, which is why the outer layer lock-ups were so obnoxious.

    Hope this helps!

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    Can this be applied to the 6x6?
    3x3 1/5/12/50/100-7.94, 9.70, 10.78, 11.69, 11.91/ 3x3 OH 1/5/12- 12.34, 15.92, 17.21/ 4x4 33.11!!!/ 5x5 1:19/ 6x6 2:55/ 7x7 4:55/sq1- 26/mega 1:13

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