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    Well, it took me about three months to finally finish PLL(laziness and school plays factors xP), but after those three months, I was completely set. I'd suggest do an average of 100 every day for a week, then you'll be fine

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    Just do 50-100 solves a day. In a week, you'll be around 25-22 avg and you'll recognize plls.

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    Recognition is one of the more difficult aspects of learning PLL, but perhaps some of your algorithms aren't particularly fast. Have you tried looking at different algorithms for any of the slower algorithms cases you may be currently using?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranzha V. Emodrach View Post
    Recognition is one of the more difficult aspects of learning PLL, but perhaps some of your algorithms aren't particularly fast. Have you tried looking at different algorithms for any of the slower algorithms cases you may be currently using?
    I found recognition natural once I learned an alg.

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    definitely stick with 2LLL. It will pay off eventually.
    3x3 single: 7.30, avg5: 10.48, avg12: 11.67, avg100: 12.74, avg1000: 13.43
    3x3 OH single: 9.97, avg5: 14.72, avg12: 16.76, avg100: 19.04, avg1000: 19.72

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    You see, this kind of thing is what I don't get about people.

    "Why am I not faster?"
    "Why I can't I turn as quickly?"
    "Why does my LL take so long?"
    "Why does my F2L take so long?"

    Seriously, its like me working out one day and asking why I can't lift a thousand pounds.

    Cmon. It doesn't happen overnight. Be real. Its like everything else in this world, you get as much out of it as you put into it. If you stick with it it'll be better, faster. If you don't practice or learn, you'll get slower.

    There. Did I adequately answer your question?
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    [3BLD: 3:09.51] [5x5: 3:21.12] [2x2: 1.56] [4x4: 1:34.28]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleredo View Post
    the temptation to just switch back to 2LPLL is growing with the minute.
    Why should it matter how long it takes for you to pass your 2L PLL times if 1L is faster? Unless you have a competition coming up it shouldn't matter because this is like an investment. You put in time to get better at something even though you get a little worse knowing that in the end you will be faster than what was possible with 2L PLL. How long this process takes is different for everybody. Some people will catch on quick but some will take a little longer. However, someone who takes longer and suffers for a little while with worse times will end up a faster cuber than someone who goes back to what they are comfortable with. So it's your choice, I understand that it sucks to have averages worse than what you are capable of but you have to see the bigger picture and ignore how long it will take if you want to see results.

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    I never had a 2L PLL. However my times went up when I first cleared pll and dropped over the next couple weeks. Generally I learned two per day and spent the next day making sure I could recognize and execute. It took me 3 weeks to learn full PLL. Unfortunately I was taking orgo that semester and practiced and learned algs instead of learning chemistry.
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    Yeah, I never learned 2ll Pll either. I went straight through them and then knew 1 look.
    3x3 PBs: Single: 15.13 Ao5: 19.52 OH: 38.79
    [3BLD: 3:09.51] [5x5: 3:21.12] [2x2: 1.56] [4x4: 1:34.28]

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    learning PLLs is good but if it takes you a bit of time still to recognize the cases and then that slight pause to jog your memory of which to do can cancel out some of the time you might cut by having 1 less look on LL, so i feel it's just practicing solves alot and just practicing getting faster in recognition

    also could be the algorithms you use, some are better than others, or you just need to drill them more for faster execution
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