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    Thanks for tips, I'm having quite hard transition from Cross, so I just keep looking for peaces during first block, for second one I found some nice ways to build it but I need to practice it more and start look ahead a bit. I already learned sunes and antisunes CMLLs maybe its too early but earlier I learn less trouble in future. LSE is tricky but yeah with time I'll get used to it.

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    Okay so FB on F is fine, if you can plan in inspection is good. However always think of different angles. You may be able to do it on L without problems. If youre gonna do it on F make sure you look ahead on the B and S slices.

    Also, don't hurry! That SB, just turn slowly and try to plan the beginning while solving the last bit of the FB. Do not pause, turn really fast, pause, turn really fast, pause, turn really fast etc.

    Cmll is ok

    Lse, turn slower so you don't pause between steps. And look for easy cases. Like in the vid rather than M'U2M' you could do MU2MU2M2 and not have E2ME2M. Maybe its a bit early for stuff like that.

    Your main problem is you turn too fast. You need to be able to solve with very few pauses
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    Can someone help me with my 2nd block? I recorded and then reconstructed this solve, it was 21.89s.

    Yesterday I decided since my CFOP isn't really getting anywhere, stuck around 15/16s that I would change to Roux for good.

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    Because I don't know CMLL I'm two looking the corners... I can upload video but I was trying to turn slow...
    Single/Ao5/Ao12/Ao100 - 16.50/19.82/22.59/27.12 - I switched to Roux, you should to...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 95Rifles View Post
    D' R2 B' U' R U' D R D2 L2 D R2 F2 D2 R2 D' B2 R2 D

    z2 //inspection
    D' d' M U M' U2 L U' L' M U M' L' U L //FB
    F R' F' R U R' R' U R U2 M r U r' U' M U2 M' U2 R' U R //SB
    M' U' x U' L U R' U' L' U R x' //corners
    U R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R'
    U M' U M' //EO
    M' U2 M U M U2 M' U2 M2 //sideedge
    U U2 M U2 M' U2 M' U2 M
    Okay lets start with First Block. There are various things you could've done to rid of some moves.
    I noticed you connected the WG(whitegreen) edge to the center; thats too CFOPy. What you need is a Corner-Edge pair => Going to insert GOW corner to WG edge <R' U2 R>.
    Now we could do a <D'> But the GO edge isnt in the right 'slot'. So we do a <F2 D'>. Do you see how the square was made?
    To finish the First Block , <y> to but square on left. ,<R' U' R2 U> There the pair was made. <B2> Insertion.
    15 moves was reduced to 10. Doesnt sound like much, but in a solve, it really is.

    So lets go back to your original Second Block.
    Here you also put the BW edge to its center, making it your 'cross' then you create 2 pairs. Since youre a previous CFOP user, youre forgiven xD

    This is how I would do it.
    I would connect the RBW corner with its edge(RB) and place that BW edge in its place at the same time.
    <M' U' R'> So the pair is made and the BW edge is only a U2 away from being in its place, so lets do that. <U2 F> We broke first block to insert pair, so lets fix it and insert. <R F' R>
    The BO edge is in its correct 'slot', so we gotta place the corner without taking out the edge. Heres a little trick. Place corner above edge<U> , place corner and abuse M slice to insert edge <R U M U M' U' r'>

    22 Moves reduced to 16. Thats actually a HUGE difference.

    My advice is that you take your time and play with your blocks. Try to rid of that CFOP habit. I know its hard, i had to do the same.
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    Jeez, wow thanks for that, although I can't get the 2nd block advice to work.

    I've been trying to avoid making my first block like an XCross and do it a bit differently. I have been trying to work with blocks without timing to make the most efficient choices. This time I'm really serious about choosing Roux and I want to make the best go of it. Seeing how you did that 1st block is was so obvious to me but currently I need these things pointed out...

    When should I learn CMLL?
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    although I can't get the 2nd block advice to work.
    Go back to your original solve. Do:
    D' R2 B' U' R U' D R D2 L2 D R2 F2 D2 R2 D' B2 R2 D

    z2 //inspection
    D' d' M U M' U2 L U' L' M U M' L' U L //FB
    Then do what I wrote.

    I've been trying to avoid making my first block like an XCross and do it a bit differently. I have been trying to work with blocks without timing to make the most efficient choices. This time I'm really serious about choosing Roux and I want to make the best go of it. Seeing how you did that 1st block is was so obvious to me but currently I need these things pointed out...
    Its all good. Everyone needs help.

    When should I learn CMLL?
    When you average around 25, i think you should start learning.
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    D' R2 B' U' R U' D R D2 L2 D R2 F2 D2 R2 D' B2 R2 D

    First block:
    Quote Originally Posted by 95Rifles View Post
    D' d'
    You're inserting the DL edge here, you can just use an edge which already is matching the center

    Quote Originally Posted by 95Rifles View Post
    M U M' U2 L U' L'
    you are creating the corner edge pair at a very bad position (ULF, UF)
    better would be: l U M' U

    Quote Originally Posted by 95Rifles View Post
    M U M' L' U L
    rubbish... M U R' F

    Second block:
    Quote Originally Posted by 95Rifles View Post
    F R' F'
    same as FB

    Quote Originally Posted by 95Rifles View Post
    R U R2 U R U2 M r U r'
    just R' U' R or with your pair:
    R U R2 U R U2 R U R'

    Quote Originally Posted by 95Rifles View Post
    U' M U2 M' U2 R' U R
    U' r' U2 M' U' R

    You insert the D edge first, often you just can use an other edge with is matching the L/R center or you can do a corner-edge pair first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PandaCuber View Post
    <M' U' R'> So the pair is made and the BW edge is only a U2 away from being in its place, so lets do that. <U2 F> We broke first block to insert pair, so lets fix it and insert. <R F' R>
    Pair: U' R'
    Insertion: U' F' U' F
    Rest: R' U M U M' U' R'

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    Quote Originally Posted by pijok View Post
    Pair: U' R'
    Insertion: U' F' U' F
    Rest: R' U M U M' U' R'
    Oh thats nice. Would have never figured that out. Thanks.
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    D' R2 B' U' R U' D R D2 L2 D R2 F2 D2 R2 D' B2 R2 D
    This scramble is perfect for me to ask about a growing habit of mine.

    When I solved that I ended up making two squares before the first block and finishing the right side first. It was all a result of lucky case recognition. I intended to protect the left block while solving the right, but ended up doing the right side first. It is something that I have slowly started doing as I became more comfortable block building.


    I guess my question is, do other more experienced Rouxers end up flipping steps like that often to protect lucky right block states?

    Inspection x2z’
    U2L2U’x (3) right square
    U’R2U (6) left square
    r RU’R’ (10)right block
    U2 M U’ l’ U l (16) left block
    R’FRUR’U’F’UR (25) KCMLL
    M2U2M2 (28) LR edges
    U’M’U2MU’ (33) finish
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