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    Quote Originally Posted by theZcuber View Post
    Not really. To be completely honest, I've crossed the Canadian border (from the US, not Canada) with another person's family. It really isn't that complicated, but there has to be a definitive way in the regs to get around this sort of stuff. One option is simple changing must to should.
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    We shouldn't have to rewrite every regulation to cover every possible disability or unusual circumstance. In cases like these we rely on the judge/delegate's reasonable judgement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theZcuber View Post
    Not really. To be completely honest, I've crossed the Canadian border (from the US, not Canada) with another person's family. It really isn't that complicated, but there has to be a definitive way in the regs to get around this sort of stuff. One option is simple changing must to should.
    but again, i think it can be assumed if your accompanied by a resident of a country (that can be proved) you can use that country as yours

    idk how to say this but, accompanied in the sense of a guardian/someone over 18 with a passport.
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    The whole passport thing really relies on the idea that cubers are trustworthy people. There are many younger competitors who don't have a passport or even any official form of ID, and we just have to trust that they and their parent/guardian are good people who aren't going to lie about where they're from. Similarly, it's not like most of us have the technology or knowledge to distinguish a real passport from a really good counterfeit.

    In summary, don't be a jerk. If you feel the need to lie about your nationality just to get a NR for a country with very few cubers, that's just sad.

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    It's actually pretty tough to get a passport in the US. My family all got one many years back and it was a pretty big deal full of bureaucracy and stuff. Certainly not something I'd expect most competition attendees to be able to do, especially random teenagers. In an ideal world it would be great to check everyone, but in practice I think requiring identification would just prevent a lot of one-competition-ever competitors from taking part. And we do have a lot of those.

    I do agree with Shelley, though, that at least in the US there's not much point to worrying about citizenship. If someone wants to get the NR for a weird country then it makes sense, but if they're competing in the US they basically have no chance of getting any kind of record unless they're well known, so it doesn't hurt anyone to assume they're in the US. I'm sure in Europe the situation is totally different as there are a lot of relatively small countries and any competition is likely to have people who've taken a train or car over from a nearby one.
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    What happens when a solve is being timed with both a stackmat and a stopwatch and when the solve is finished the judge realizes the stackmat shows 0.XX? If XX is greater than 06, then the time should be DNF. But does this depend on the stopwatch time? If the stopwatch shows more than ten minutes, then the stackmat time would've been irrelevant. Does the validity of the solve depend on the solve time? If XX is less than 06, can the competitor ask for another solve? Would the stopwatch have to show a time less than ten minutes for the competitor to get a new solve?

    Competitors regularly bring extra cubes to their solving station, practicing between solves and such. Suppose a competitor is participating in 4BLD. A solved cube sitting on the table could help direct them regarding the correct location of pieces during memorization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyan View Post
    What happens when a solve is being timed with both a stackmat and a stopwatch and when the solve is finished the judge realizes the stackmat shows 0.XX? If XX is greater than 06, then the time should be DNF. But does this depend on the stopwatch time? If the stopwatch shows more than ten minutes, then the stackmat time would've been irrelevant. Does the validity of the solve depend on the solve time? If XX is less than 06, can the competitor ask for another solve? Would the stopwatch have to show a time less than ten minutes for the competitor to get a new solve?

    Competitors regularly bring extra cubes to their solving station, practicing between solves and such. Suppose a competitor is participating in 4BLD. A solved cube sitting on the table could help direct them regarding the correct location of pieces during memorization.
    I'm hoping to see that .06 rule removed from the regulations. It's user error, not a timer malfunction. If it IS a timer malfunction, then it can be replicated, and you will usually see that the lights will turn on while hovering near the timer, causing the stopped time. I believe this .06 rule has been used to intentionally get new scrambles for bad cases, but of course there is no way to prove it.
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    The new Regulations and Guidelines are now available at http://worldcubeassociation.org/regulations/.
    See Vincent's thread for more details.
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