# Thread: Proposition - Let's fix some cubing terms!

1. Originally Posted by StachuK1992
I've thought about this in regards to Waterman and also beginner's methods adapted from layer-by-layer that don't explicitly solve the cube layer by layer.
For instance, the method I used before my transition into CFOP was
1.) Cross
2.) Middle layer
3.) FL corners
4.) 4LLL

Even though it does, in a way, solve the cube one layer at a time, I wouldn't consider it a layer-by-layer method and rather a beginner's method. I think that "The Beginner's Method" has so many variants that instead of being grouped as one collective concept, all of the beginner's methods are under the term "beginner's methods". The layer-by-layer method in which one solves Cross, FL, 2nd layer, and LL in my opinion should be renamed "Traditional Layer-by-Layer" under the Layer-by-Layer methods umbrella. Just my two cents (and hopefully sense as well).

Originally Posted by Sa967St
Yeah, ELL is fine the way it is as long as it's specified what puzzle it's for. Same for CLL being "corners of the last layer", given the context.

Suggestion: 3ELL, 4ELL, 2CLL, 3CLL etc.
I've already gone about calling CLL for 3x3 3CLL; in my opinion, the different types of CLL and whatnot should be classified by colloquial names, as it has been done with PLL cases (Allan, Bert, and the like).

Originally Posted by Sa967St
About the term '2-gen', if we get rid of it (it was brought up on CubeCast) what would 2GLL be re-named to?

I don't know if everyone will like acronyms that contain names of faces such as RULL (for <R,U>LL), it doesn't really seem to fit with the rest of the acronyms (other than CMLL, but the M in it is just lol anyways).
As far as 2-gen goes, I think the usage of the term '2-gen' should be lenient. Just as Lucas (or whoever) proved the cube was 2-gen (using two algorithms to solve the cube from any state), 2GLL uses only the R and U faces. Both are correct, and any feuding against the true definition is in my opinion unnecessary. Just don't be a dick about the whole thing like some people are being, saying "Well <R U R', D> is 2-gen!" Even though it is technically true, the kind of 2-gen a particular writing or whatever is talking about should be able to be figured out.

2. Originally Posted by Lucas Garron
I don't know why people really care. See Stigler's Law to see why I think this is so petty.

EDIT: Note that I am still strongly in favor of attribution for new ideas. But Fridrich/CFOP is established and at this point it's just a name. Maybe we should put up a clear wiki section explaining the history, but "Fridrich" is still clear and accurate while people can like using "C"FOP all they like.
I rewrote parts of it: CFOP

3. Originally Posted by irontwig
A half-jokingly proposal: http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/sh...l=1#post641913

Yeah, and it doesn't get better that it's a subset of domino redux (pretty much "actual human kociemba"), which is a pretty rare method as iirc I've only seen Fredlund and Okayama use for 1h+ solutions.
You haven't seen Mirek Goljan use it?? I'm surprised ...

Per

4. It's not like I've looked through every FMC solution...

5. Originally Posted by irontwig
It's not like I've looked through every FMC solution...
Yes, but i used it in in same fmc round as Mirek - at the old fmc site. If i'm not completely mistaken that was my only time to use domino style ending.

Per

6. ## Naming Convention

We all know Winter Variation (WV) and Summer Variation (SV). I think their mirrors might as well have names following the same style. I propose Fall Variation (FV) for the mirror of Winter Variation and Spring Variation (SpV?) for the mirror of Summer Variation. It just saves from saying "the mirror of Winter Variation".

In fact, I will start calling these by these names anyway whether people like it or not.

7. Originally Posted by Bob
We all know Winter Variation (WV) and Summer Variation (SV). I think their mirrors might as well have names following the same style. I propose Fall Variation (FV) for the mirror of Winter Variation and Spring Variation (SpV?) for the mirror of Summer Variation. It just saves from saying "the mirror of Winter Variation".

In fact, I will start calling these by these names anyway whether people like it or not.
Lol, I like it, although Winter variation is not referring to the time of the year, but rather the last name of the person who invented it.

8. I really like this.

Ditto about using these names anyway regardless of whether it's proper naming or not.

Originally Posted by jskyler91
Lol, I like it, although Winter variation is not referring to the time of the year, but rather the last name of the person who invented it.
Yeah, we know, but whatever. It's convenient to name the mirror and inverse cases this way.

9. Originally Posted by jskyler91
Lol, I like it, although Winter variation is not referring to the time of the year, but rather the last name of the person who invented it.
Yes. However, somebody already decided to name the R U R' cases "Summer Variation" (probably out of ignorance, but maybe not). It's too late to change that now.

10. Originally Posted by Bob
Yes. However, somebody already decided to name the R U R' cases "Summer Variation" (probably out of ignorance, but maybe not). It's too late to change that now.
That was Chester. It looks like he thought of the name "Summer Variation" before he realized that Winter Variation was named after someone. I still think it's fine. :P
http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/sh...without-a-name

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