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    Did you read my edit to my above (above) post btw?
    Also what do you think of my solves? Like if you don't mind watch one of the solves and analyse it like I did for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5BLD View Post
    Did you read my edit to my above (above) post btw?
    Also what do you think of my solves? Like if you don't mind watch one of the solves and analyse it like I did for me.
    I need to upload slow mo video.

    For you.
    Last solve of video. At 3:06 exact.
    Small second block pause to look for pieces.
    Hesitations during SB. Ex: U..U..U'.. ( I think it was a hesitation. Could just be CMLL)

    Lse is fine.
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    Constructive Criticism?

    First Block so easy, i know lololol

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    Quote Originally Posted by PandaCuber View Post
    Constructive Criticism?

    First Block so easy, i know lololol
    At 0:14, you did a really awkward R2', and I think that messed up your TPS for a split second. Maybe going the other way would have been better.

    Full one-second pause before CMLL. Shame. See if you can make that half a second. (I have that problem too with OLLs and PLLs too, though.)

    Do you know any way to double trigger that last algorithm? I've tried a way, but setting up for is really awkward and takes away time too... I'll post a video to see about that alg, to see if the method I made up is anything worth trying...

    Though I can't really say much. I don't use Roux. Sorry!

    Edit: 5BLD could probably help you more.
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    Hey, you know, I've been wanting to make some more cubing friends. If you guys would like, we can Skype sometime and try to critique each other. Or maybe oovoo, since skype doesn't allow group calls without subscriptions. If you're game, PM me!

    Also, there is something I have discovered: psychological boosts actually do help sometime. If you cube with the thought that if you don't get to some certain goal by such and such time, you'll find yourself messing up a lot less. Or, for example, before you start a solve, if you try to sort of remind yourself to keep your eyes open and looking for the next step, your eyes might start to suddenly find it easier. Not to say this is a process that happens by itself. It really is a self-motivation technique, which means it's all you.

    I remember when I went to China to train in table tennis for a month. I saw a kid training in multiball with one of the teachers. He missed about 3 out of 20 balls, which is pretty amazing IMO, but by the third missed ball, instead of feeding the ball to him, the teacher slapped the ball at his face and said "你要在这儿吗!?” which basically means, "DO YOU WANT TO BE HERE OR NOT??" He stopped, caught his breath, had shame on his face, and then the teacher continued feeding balls to him. He didn't miss another one after that. I thought that was just incredible.

    I applied that idea to myself. Whenever I was doing multiball training, I kept telling myself, do you want to be here or not? The fact that I was going to leave after a month only made me work harder. I found myself messing up A LOT less than usual, and my focus improved tremendously. I've always had terrible focus, so this psychological strategy really worked wonders for my game! I'm also trying to apply this idea to my cubing to see what it does.

    When you tell your brain to improve merely because you said so, you find your brain can do a whole lot more than you thought it could!
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    Sure, add me on skype. What do you think of my video?

    As for motivation you reminded me of something I've had recently.
    I'd get like a 9.0x avg5 or of whatever until I realise I'm doing well. Then the thought immediately hits me "if the next solve is **** then this average will suck". When I get this thought I begin to get worse and worse, with mid 10s, which enrage me.

    With that rage I do even worse, and by the time i get 14s I'm furious and have no idea why I'm doing so badly. And a few minutes later i wonder why I got angry so easily.

    Now I remind myself that it doesn't matter what the times are, the aim is to simply practice. Telling yourself "be calm" very rarely helps me.

    With this philosophy I just got my first sub-10 avg100, whilst yesterday the feeling hit me a bit and made a sub-9.9 avg50 to 10.0x avg100. Today I reminded myself that it doesn't matter, and just practice, and there we go, easy peasy sub-10 avg100. Of course I could've gotten better but the feeling still hit me a bit. I had a high 8 avg5, 9.0x avg12 and 9.6 avg50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5BLD View Post
    Sure, add me on skype. What do you think of my video?

    As for motivation you reminded me of something I've had recently.
    I'd get like a 9.0x avg5 or of whatever until I realise I'm doing well. Then the thought immediately hits me "if the next solve is **** then this average will suck". When I get this thought I begin to get worse and worse, with mid 10s, which enrage me.

    With that rage I do even worse, and by the time i get 14s I'm furious and have no idea why I'm doing so badly. And a few minutes later i wonder why I got angry so easily.

    Now I remind myself that it doesn't matter what the times are, the aim is to simply practice. Telling yourself "be calm" very rarely helps me.

    With this philosophy I just got my first sub-10 avg100, whilst yesterday the feeling hit me a bit and made a sub-9.9 avg50 to 10.0x avg100. Today I reminded myself that it doesn't matter, and just practice, and there we go, easy peasy sub-10 avg100. Of course I could've gotten better but the feeling still hit me a bit. I had a high 8 avg5, 9.0x avg12 and 9.6 avg50.
    Now I feel like I know what I'm doing wrong.
    I know I have the potential to go as fast as you guys, but the thought of what 5BLD said flooded understanding into my mind.

    My times suck because when I get a bad time, I start to feel like I'm going to suck later in the average, which will ruin the average, which did ruin the average. Now, I'm going to practice on what I'm going to improve and then I think I'll get better.

    I have to stop cubing, because my mom confiscated all them, because she thinks I practice too much.

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    Aw no. Stop all together? Or just for a period of time? If it's just a period of time practice sim or something...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5BLD View Post
    Sure, add me on skype. What do you think of my video?

    As for motivation you reminded me of something I've had recently.
    I'd get like a 9.0x avg5 or of whatever until I realise I'm doing well. Then the thought immediately hits me "if the next solve is **** then this average will suck". When I get this thought I begin to get worse and worse, with mid 10s, which enrage me.

    With that rage I do even worse, and by the time i get 14s I'm furious and have no idea why I'm doing so badly. And a few minutes later i wonder why I got angry so easily.

    Now I remind myself that it doesn't matter what the times are, the aim is to simply practice. Telling yourself "be calm" very rarely helps me.

    With this philosophy I just got my first sub-10 avg100, whilst yesterday the feeling hit me a bit and made a sub-9.9 avg50 to 10.0x avg100. Today I reminded myself that it doesn't matter, and just practice, and there we go, easy peasy sub-10 avg100. Of course I could've gotten better but the feeling still hit me a bit. I had a high 8 avg5, 9.0x avg12 and 9.6 avg50.
    Me thinks it is not philosophy, but psychology!

    That doesn't work for me.... It only works, like... every few months. I'll get some randomly nice average of 12, and then i'm plateaued.

    If I'm just focused on practicing, I don't get good times. In fact, I get terrible times because when I say "I'm focused on practicing," it's very different from when YOU say "I'm focused on practicing." I'm not really focused when I say that.

    If you'd like to know, with a different method, I actually got a very nice F2L average of 12. 8.09, which is a PB, but doesn't count for anything because I was breaking the 15-second inspection limit on purpose. I've been around those times for a very long time though, which is annoying, and being annoyed is distracting too, like rage is distracting for you and me and most other cubers. Before every solve, I made sure to tell myself exactly what I need to do before every solve, because I forget a lot. Often times I literally just forget to think. So, I actually need to practice on specific things outside of timing, like things I actually need to work on, and then when I'm timing, I need to bring everything I've practiced that day together and focus on it for very short amounts of time, I think, which requires remining myself of everything I need to do before I actually start the solve, and also visualize and feel out what I'm going to do at the intro of the solve before I do it. And I actually told myself aloud to "calm down and THINK" before the solves, too.

    It's kinda funny that I literally have to remind myself to think. Sometimes, even when I remind myself to think, I forget because I'm too focused on making an X-cross, so then I have this gynormous pause, and then I'm like, "Oh, poopy."

    So, I don't think that was quite the right way to think when you said "if the next solve is **** then this average will suck." That moved the focus towards getting a good time and not towards the actual actions necessary for getting a good time. That's why I the main reason why I plateau a lot. I'm more worried about getting good times and not the actions necessary.

    So, basically, I need to practice focusing. As for you, you're probably doing a better job of focusing, or maybe you're just an awesome cuber. But either way, focusing on what you need to do is necessary. That's probably what happens when you tell yourself to just practice.

    But yeah, in conclusion, my focus is horrible.

    Since that last F2L average was so successful, I'm gonna try something out for the next month or so. I'm going to focus solely on F2L in practice. I wanna try training just a few things at a time. Don't care about OH, BLD, or even LL. Just focusing on Cross and F2L.

    Basically, I'm going to do four stages in my training: algorithm training, burst-speed execution solving, BLD-in-parts, and slow-solving. The focus of the first two is simply to get through the algorithms without lock-ups. The second is to stretch my brain out a bit and hopefully improve my visual-spacial intelligence. The last is, of course, to practice look ahead. I'm not doing any one of them for more than 20-25 minutes at a time. And I will always use the timer, because I need to learn not to be distracted by it. And also the finger stretches. Those will always be necessary. In the end, this is all meant for practicing focus.

    Oh, and gratz on your sub-10 average of 100!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaKrazedKyubizt View Post
    Me thinks it is not philosophy, but psychology!
    I hate to feel like I'm deliberately manipulating myself psychologically. The psychology for me is simple: just let everything go and just relax. (Sounds weird this way put but: be happy!)
    When i think of it as psychology I feel things get too serious, I dunno, that's just the way my mind works. The funny thing is that I am very interested in psychology for other things but for cubing I just like to think that everything is natural.
    Again, that contradicts the fact that I notice psychologically i work best in a calm mindset. Mehhh.

    That doesn't work for me.... It only works, like... every few months. I'll get some randomly nice average of 12, and then i'm plateaued.

    If I'm just focused on practicing, I don't get good times. In fact, I get terrible times because when I say "I'm focused on practicing," it's very different from when YOU say "I'm focused on practicing." I'm not really focused when I say that.
    Maybe you're not focussing what you're focusing when you tell yourself to focus on practice. For me, again, if I think of focusing, then I just lose focus straight away and i start to get angry. When I say 'focus on just practicing' means... I don't care if I get bad times. And funnily enough with this philosophy I very rarely do. However to stop my brain from saying 'hang on a minute how are you tracking your progress' I reply saying 'I will do an average tonight. Right now my focus is practicing.'

    The Psychology of this is that I no longer feel pressured. Even if I get a bad time it really doesn't matter to me genuinely. I think when you say 'just practice don't worry about times' what you're subconsciously saying is '5BLD says that this will help me get good times. I'll be very angry if I don't get good times with this philosophy'. This obviously leads to you getting angry with bad times, and this being further suppressed by the fact you're making yourself 'focus on practicing only' only makes matters worse and you get more and more angry.

    NB: Please please if all of this is wrong don't be offended; i'm writing what I'm thinking as I go along. All this might not even make sense.

    If you'd like to know, with a different method, I actually got a very nice F2L average of 12. 8.09, which is a PB, but doesn't count for anything because I was breaking the 15-second inspection limit on purpose. I've been around those times for a very long time though, which is annoying, and being annoyed is distracting too, like rage is distracting for you and me and most other cubers. Before every solve, I made sure to tell myself exactly what I need to do before every solve, because I forget a lot. Often times I literally just forget to think. So, I actually need to practice on specific things outside of timing, like things I actually need to work on, and then when I'm timing, I need to bring everything I've practiced that day together and focus on it for very short amounts of time, I think, which requires remining myself of everything I need to do before I actually start the solve, and also visualize and feel out what I'm going to do at the intro of the solve before I do it. And I actually told myself aloud to "calm down and THINK" before the solves, too.
    Yes absolutely. Do you sometimes get the feeling that you don't want to practice a certain step because you'll be angry when you realise that you're bad at it?
    As for remembering to think, well, obviously thinking is a good thing but I find 'up-front' thinking is just slow. I like to think of it as this: the mind comes up with a thought and if it's an up-front thought it translates it into something coherent, like into English or something. As I said eariler I may be completely and utterly wrong but these are my thoughts. Whilst I find quick thinking just happens with a completely blank mind and total focus. So focussed and not thinking 'ok this pair goes there' but sub-consciously kind of acknowledging that it's there and you know straight away to solve it and then you do this CMLL and watch how the edges move so you know you've got this 4a+4b case and then you know you'll get a 4c skip and then you drop the cube put your hands on the timer.
    You don't go "This red-blue pair moves here so now I need to look for the red pair which is over here"; you do this all quickly subconsciously rather than processing everything 'directly' in the moment.

    As for being calm. Whenever I remind myslef to be calm due to the circumstances my rage just builds up, being suppressed and this is not such a good thing. Well at least this is what i think happens.

    It's kinda funny that I literally have to remind myself to think. Sometimes, even when I remind myself to think, I forget because I'm too focused on making an X-cross, so then I have this gynormous pause, and then I'm like, "Oh, poopy."

    I sometimes plan though the first block and the first second block square, then when I pick up the cube I'm like, so what was the first block again? I think this is similar to what you have. Now that I have noticed this though I've been doing this a lot lot less.

    So, I don't think that was quite the right way to think when you said "if the next solve is **** then this average will suck." That moved the focus towards getting a good time and not towards the actual actions necessary for getting a good time. That's why I the main reason why I plateau a lot. I'm more worried about getting good times and not the actions necessary.
    No absolutely not. That is not the right way to think, which is what I said. For me my best focus is when I'm focused on simply solving- the whole solve as a whole moreso, not 'remembering to use BBF2L' or 'remembering to turn fast on LSE'.

    So, basically, I need to practice focusing. As for you, you're probably doing a better job of focusing, or maybe you're just an awesome cuber. But either way, focusing on what you need to do is necessary. That's probably what happens when you tell yourself to just practice.

    But yeah, in conclusion, my focus is horrible.
    If you're focussed on trying to focus, I find you start to lose focus of the aim to focus but more focussing on the fact that you HAVE to focus. WHen you try to focus on remembering to focus IMO you lose focus of what you're trying to focus on in the first place.

    Since that last F2L average was so successful, I'm gonna try something out for the next month or so. I'm going to focus solely on F2L in practice. I wanna try training just a few things at a time. Don't care about OH, BLD, or even LL. Just focusing on Cross and F2L.

    Basically, I'm going to do four stages in my training: algorithm training, burst-speed execution solving, BLD-in-parts, and slow-solving. The focus of the first two is simply to get through the algorithms without lock-ups. The second is to stretch my brain out a bit and hopefully improve my visual-spacial intelligence. The last is, of course, to practice look ahead. I'm not doing any one of them for more than 20-25 minutes at a time. And I will always use the timer, because I need to learn not to be distracted by it. And also the finger stretches. Those will always be necessary. In the end, this is all meant for practicing focus.
    Nice plan
    I prefer to have variety in my practice however... As for alg execution without lockups I find the problem most have with algs is they know what move to do next so they go do said move before they are even finished with the previous move, causing a lockup or explosion.

    Oh, and gratz on your sub-10 average of 100!
    Thanks, it's a relief now that people won't say 'oh but your avg100 is only 10.08' not that I actually bothered to do an avg100 for once...
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