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    Question How did you learn your OLLs?

    So I'm starting learning my OLLs this summer. The problem is I dont know what I should learn first, for example should I learn straight from OLL1-OLL57, should I learn them by trigger groupings, or should I learn them by shape groupings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hic2482w View Post
    So I'm starting learning my OLLs this summer. The problem is I dont know what I should learn first, for example should I learn straight from OLL1-OLL57, should I learn them by trigger groupings, or should I learn them by shape groupings?
    If you look up Badmephisto on youtube, he has some tutorials on this very subject. Right now I know around 33/57. Since I'm the kind of person that tends to learn from repetition, I'm currently using a spreadsheet whereby I can reproduce any case from a solved state and repeat it until it's in my muscle memory.

    I started with 2 look oll and going from there.
    3x3 (single 12.10 lucky), (Single 14.57 full step), (Avg of 5 17.65), (Avg of 12 20.01), 4x4 (Single 1:09.67), (Avg of 5 1:24.75), (Avg of 12 1:31.23)

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    Well, I suggest you first learn 2 oll.
    And then after that, learn an oll every day or two
    In regards what order, I can not say. I chose to learn olls by shapes because I found it easy that way.
    As to what algorithm for the oll, well that matters on multiple factors.
    Ask yourself: should I learn a more trigger oriented oll? Or, should I learn a more finger tricky oll?
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    I learnt them 1 by 1, of course I knew 2OLL before so it was a bit easier.
    [1/5/12/100] 3x3 | 6.55 / 9.93 / 10.87 / 11.90 It's been like a year since I stopped cubing seriously. Now I'm trying to get back on my feet.

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    I started out with the "dot" cases (no edges flipped correctly). I've heard some people complain about these, but they were honestly some of the easiest ones, in my opinion. After that, I've basically been going through and looking at whatever group I think looks easy to recognize, learn all the cases for that group, then choose a new group.

    The "L" shapes group has been giving me the most trouble, so I would recommend maybe save it for last, because its caused me to stop learning OLLs for like a month now, while I try to keep them straight in my head.

    I'm learning them almost exclusively through using my CaseTrainer app. It lets me quickly run through them all every day.
    Single: 15.43; Avg5: 21.20; Avg12: 23.10

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    I'm currently doing it by grouping them into their shapes. I made a image, where I put all 57 OLLs, and split them up by groups, with a red line. I then learn each group, so recognition is much easier for me.
    3x3: Single/Ao5/Ao12 = 11.63(NL!!!)/15.37/16.62
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    I told myself to learn at least 2 per day. I would gradually memorise the algs for one 'shape', then move onto the next and so on.

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    Badmephisto more or less grouped them by difficulty and algorithm similarity, but there's nothing stopping you from skipping around. Like many have posted above, I gravitated toward common shapes. For example 7, 8, 11, and 12 all have a similar surface appearance, and if you only know two of them, it's frustrating. You'll be like, "Aha! I know this case! No...wait...I don't...sigh..." Still, his algorithms are among the easiest to learn. Once you've filled in all 57 you can go back and replace ones you genuinely dislike by shopping around.

    Beginning with the dot cases will eliminate the most costly of your 2-Look system, so I would encourage learning those early.

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    I started with learning all those OLL's where no edges are flipped correctly (the "dot" cases) because they are the ones that take the longest time to preform 2-look. (I obviously already knew all the 2-look algs). I learnt about 1 or 2 per week.
    Some people say that you should learn the easiest ones first and save the hardest to last, but I would recommend the opposite. If you start with the hard ones you will have more time to practice them and you will get more used to them.
    16.36 was my first sub-20

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    i learned from bob burtons site
    their grouped on shapes so i learned in groups of about 4 and went through about 2 groups a week
    but on some of the harder cases i learned from badmephistos site he has better algs
    Why you reading this bro?

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