Heise Method Help Thread

[Cube Equation]

I am currently attempting to learn Heise Method, but I don't understand what to do after constructing the two pairs in step 3. I don't understand how to use pair 3-cycles to permute the edges. Any help would be welcome. Thanks.

[timeless]

try reversing the alg and see if it works

[Cube Equation]

Alg? I don't think there are any algorithms in Heise.

[Cubenovice]

Have you already mastered commutators?

If not make sure to get comfortable with them first. Only then switch to pair 3-cycles (= commutators with pairs instead of "just" corners).

When starting Heise it is easier to skip the "two pairs" step ans just finish with "leaving 5 corners".
This way you can get comfortable with edge manipulation and commutators before moving on to the more complicated stuff.

[Godmil]

Agh, just beaten to the punch.
Yeah, just do the single edges first then use coms on the last 5 corners.

[Cube Equation]

Yes I have. But I'm just trying to learn the more advanced techniques as well.

[michaelfivez]

Do you understand corner 3-cycles? If not I suggest watching badmephistos tutorial (it's doesn't explain commutators at all in my opnion but it's a easy to understand intro), then try googling some stuf about commutators till you get it. It took me 2 hours to understand using different tutorials (I honestly think they are all bad but if you combine them it works ).
Pair 3 - cyles is almost the same, I used this site : (http://www.ryanheise.com/cube/pair_3_cycles.html) and converted all the moves in the animations into scramble algorithms, then applied the single corner one to 1 cube and the pair one to another. I solved the single corner one, and then the pair one is easy because it's the same and then I got it :P.

[Cubenovice]

Do you understand corner 3-cycles?

Yes I have. But I'm just trying to learn the more advanced techniques as well.

But I do like your suggestion about performing the corner and pair comm on two diff cubes!

[bertrandzz]

I've learned Ryan Heise's beginner method, I can easily do a cube in about 1:45( My cube can't cut corner and is slow as hell I lose 30 sec fighting against it ) I want to know is Ryan heise's beginners method the same as fridrich's method? ANd do anyone has feedbacks Ryan heise's own method.

http://www.ryanheise.com/cube/

[Ranzha V. Emodrach]

Ryan Heise's beginner's method is vastly different from the Fridrich/CFOP method.