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    I really hope Chris Tran sees this. He might be able to give some tips for recognition or other things.

    From the recognition aspect, it seems like all you have to do is recognize the twisted corners, then look at the PLL that it is. Granted, this will work directly against your normal PLL recognition, because you recognize say a Y PLL but have to do a Setup + N + Setup, or something to that nature.

    This is obviously a huge advantage from the speedsolving aspect (setup + PLL + setup'), but it will also really help out in the FMC area as well.

    This is really an awesome find!
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    Version 2 has now been uploaded!
    I have added 5 more cases and corrected some things.
    As before, feedback is welcomed!
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    I did them all manually but it could be possible.
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    R2 Classic Pochman Y-Perm(Y-Perm without "F-Setup") R2 (J-Perm, T-Shape)
    R' Classic Pochman Y-Perm R (Y-Perm, L-Shape)

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    I've experimented with this idea over the last couple of months, but I haven't documented any of it. I find the case recognition is difficult during a speed solve, where I'm just looking for orientation first, then permutation. However, I'm not practiced enough to be able to predict what OLL or PLL case I will have, I need to finish the preceding step. I'm fairly sure that many fast cubers know what case they will have before they've got to it.

    It's possible to do some edge flips with a similar idea. Some examples:

    (M' + Ja perm + M) is an edge flip Jb perm. alg.garron.us
    (M + Jb perm + M') is an edge flip Ja perm. alg.garron.us
    (S + Ja perm + S') is an edge flip Ra perm. alg.garron.us
    (S + Jb perm + S') is an edge flip Rb perm. alg.garron.us
    (M' + Y perm + M) is an edge flip V perm. alg.garron.us
    (S + V perm + S') is an edge flip Y perm. alg.garron.us

    Setup moves can also be combined to produce edge twirls and corner flips. Some examples:
    (M' F) + Y perm + (F' M) is a corner twirl + edge flip Ja perm. alg.garron.us
    (F S) + Ja perm + (F' S) is a corner twirl + edge flip V perm. alg.garron.us

    I hope those help!

    I will definitely spend time with your documentation to see how many you have found. Nice work!

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    lol corner "twirl"
    3x3|CFOP| Single 7.98 | 8.80 | Avg5 10.47 | Avg12 11.82 | BLD | M2/OP | 1:51.71
    2x2|CLL| Avg12 3.73 |

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    At some point in the near future, I will put all of this on a wiki page, so that it is easier to find. Any ideas for how it hould be laid out (e.g Like the PLLs)? Also thanks for the cases guys! If you can find ones where only cornerss need to be twisted (2nd look OLL) then they would be preferred.
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    I typed up a whole list earlier but got 500 internal error D:<
    If you start a wiki page I'll help, and why not combine Sune variants?
    Sune, lefty Sune = pure chameleon.
    Anti Sune, left Anti Sune = Pure headlights.
    Then soooo many combinations of Sune + AUF + Antisune sune.
    You could do Sune, then Antisune from one of 3 angles, Sune from 1 of 4 angles, lefty Anti Sune from 4 angles, or lefty Sune from 4 angles, so many combinations (some have same effect) can be solved like this.

    Edit: Wiki page "lazy ZBLL."

    Edit: A Wiki ZBLL page would be nice, and could have multiple algs. So lazy at the bottom, anyone up for starting? Not pics for every case, grid like.
    Last edited by Tim Major; 02-19-2011 at 11:49 PM.
    jesus christ how horrifying

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    I was thinking of splitting them up into OLL case -> PLL Case and then listing the different ones, and laying it out Like the OLL page with the different categories. what do you think about that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaeLSTRoM View Post
    I was thinking of splitting them up into OLL case -> PLL Case and then listing the different ones, and laying it out Like the OLL page with the different categories. what do you think about that?
    No, I think just have a grid with all COLL cases across the top, with arrows of the edge rotations down the side.
    I prefer printable sheets
    jesus christ how horrifying

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