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Hssandwich

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For 3x3, the biggest discrepancy is Kasoju Chandra Kanth who has a 13.36 single and a best average of 48.87.

Since you asked about Skewb, the biggest discrepancy there is Cody Brown who has a best single of 3.38 (68th in the world) and a best average of 25.86 (2131st in the world). Wow.

Wow, how on earth could that happen? Unless they were trying to get a horrible average so that they could be like that. I suppose skewb was just a matter of luck.
 

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Inspired by a question on the Delegate mailing list, I checked for WCA competitions with at least one other event having more rounds than the 3x3x3 event.

There are 60 such competitions out of 2123:

competitionId333roundsmaxroundsmaxevents
BigCubeKrasnik201423666,777,444,555
MichiganCubingClubAlpha201523333oh
SkanstullCube201423222
SPOpen201423222,444
VCubeSpiel201123555
C3Open201412pyram,skewb,sq1,333oh
PinoyBigCubesOpen201512555,666,777,pyram
EastJapanBigCubes201203555
GuangzhouBigCubes201303444
GuangzhouBigCubes201403444,pyram
MagicsKorea201203magic,mmagic
TaiwanBigCube201003555,444
VCUBESpiel201003555
AnotherFMC201502333bf
BeijingFebruary201102555,666,clock,pyram
BeijingFootsteps201102333ft
BeijingNoCubes201002mmagic,pyram,clock,sq1,magic
BeijingSideEventsSupplement201002sq1,pyram
CampeonatoBlind201302333bf,444,sq1,222
CyclopsOpen201102333bf,555
EastJapanBigCubes201302555,666,777,minx
GalaOpen201402pyram,skewb,minx
GuangzhouBigCubes201002mmagic,pyram,444,sq1,555
GuangzhouHaizhu201102333oh
HaNoiBigCube201202444,555
HaNoiBigCube201302555,444
JavaFMCCubeDay201002333fm
MiniCampeonatoSantiago201402333bf,444,222
NanjingAutumn201102magic,sq1,minx,mmagic,pyram
PinoyBigCubesOpen200902444,555
PLG2Open201202pyram,222,333bf
QuezonMegaminxOpen200902minx
ShanghaiMilanyuanCafe201402skewb,222
SingaporeSpecial201302clock,minx,pyram
TelesisBlindfoldOpen201402333bf,minx
TelesisOpen201402skewb
WasedaBrainChallenge201202333bf
BeijingAfterDark201101333mbf,444bf,555bf
BigCubesSummer200901777,pyram,555,clock,sq1,555bf,minx,444,666,mmagic,...
ChiayiPyraminx200901pyram
ChinaFMBeijing201101333fm
ChinaFMGuangzhou201101333fm
ChinaFMShanghai201101333fm
ChinaFMShenyang201101333fm
ChinaFMXian201101333fm
ChinaFMZhengzhou201101333fm
CrossstraitFMC201401333fm
FMCUSA201401333fm
FMUkraine201401333fm
GuangzhouCubeDay201101555,666,777,333bf,minx
GuangzhouFMC201201333fm,mmagic,pyram
KantoFMC201501333fm
MITFMC201401333fm
PKUFM201201333fm
PKUFMC201001333fm
ShanghaiSpring201101sq1,777,333fm,clock,333ft,minx,666
TaichungPyraminx200901pyram
TaipeiPyraminx200901pyram
TaiwanAutumn201001333ft,333oh,222,333bf
XianWinter201101sq1,magic,minx,pyram,clock

SELECT tmp2.competitionId, 333rounds, maxrounds, group_concat(eventId) as maxevents FROM
(SELECT competitionId, eventId, COUNT(distinct roundId) as numrounds FROM `Results` WHERE 1
GROUP BY competitionId, eventId) tmp2 INNER JOIN
(SELECT competitionId, sum(if(eventId="333",numrounds,0)) as 333rounds, max(numrounds) as maxrounds
FROM (SELECT competitionId, eventId, COUNT(distinct roundId) as numrounds FROM `Results` WHERE 1
GROUP BY competitionId, eventId) tmp
GROUP BY competitionId) tmp3 on tmp2.competitionId=tmp3.competitionId
WHERE numrounds=maxrounds and 333rounds < maxrounds
GROUP BY tmp2.competitionId
ORDER BY 333rounds DESC, maxrounds DESC
 

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Can I have stats for:

1. The number of competitors participating in 5BLD per year for the last 5 years (ignoring 2015, ofc)
2. The same for 4BLD?
3. The success rate for all 4BLD attempts in 2014? And the same for 5BLD?

Ta
 

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Can I have stats for:

1. The number of competitors participating in 5BLD per year for the last 5 years (ignoring 2015, ofc)
2. The same for 4BLD?
3. The success rate for all 4BLD attempts in 2014? And the same for 5BLD?

Ta

Number of competitors:

Year5BLD4BLD
200311
200432
200521
200611
20071018
20082159
20092878
201055128
201196182
201295208
2013148238
2014150259
2015 (so far)1949

In 2014, there were 750 5BLD attempts (ignoring DNSs), of which 610 were DNF and 140 were success, meaning 18.67% success rate.
In 2014, there were 1649 4BLD attempts (ignoring DNSs), of which 1283 were DNF and 366 were success, meaning 22.20% success rate.
 

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Number of competitors:

Year5BLD4BLD
200311
200432
200521
200611
20071018
20082159
20092878
201055128
201196182
201295208
2013148238
2014150259
2015 (so far)1949

In 2014, there were 750 5BLD attempts (ignoring DNSs), of which 610 were DNF and 140 were success, meaning 18.67% success rate.
In 2014, there were 1649 4BLD attempts (ignoring DNSs), of which 1283 were DNF and 366 were success, meaning 22.20% success rate.

Thanks, Ben! :) I had a suspicion that the number of 5BLD competitors was decreasing, but time will tell.

I also thought that 4BLD accuracy would be a bit higher.
 

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Can I have stats for:

3. The success rate for all 4BLD attempts in 2014? And the same for 5BLD?

Ta

Since bubba already gave the information you requested without DNSs, I included both DNF and DNSs for a larger period:

Year DNF/DNS TOTAL %
2009 290 346 83.8%
2010 585 715 81.8%
2011 803 988 81.3%
2012 934 1160 80.5%
2013 1193 1516 78.7%
2014 1440 1806 79.7%

Year DNF/DNS TOTAL %
2009 80 96 83.3%
2010 293 331 88.5%
2011 424 519 81.7%
2012 464 529 87.7%
2013 768 895 85.8%
2014 861 1001 86.0%
 

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I also thought that 4BLD accuracy would be a bit higher.

You thought right :) (unless it's me who made the mistake)

Using data from WCA_export607_20150222 and Stefan's WCA Data Tools.

YearAttemptsSuccessesAverageBestWorst
20031100.00%22:35.0022:35.0022:35.00
2004333.33%19:14.0019:14.0019:14.00
200520.00%27:46:39.99
2006850.00%11:18.998:04.9015:45.00
20075429.63%21:06.926:20.9640:16.00
200821515.81%16:05.856:05.2136:16.00
200928318.37%14:41.914:46.1927:49.00
201060621.45%15:07.984:42.3446:12.00
201184820.99%12:36.183:26.1149:52.00
201295623.01%11:59.852:48.8841:46.00
2013126323.75%10:28.062:30.6232:29.00
2014153923.78%10:20.982:18.6536:44.00
201512117.36%9:48.353:40.5818:21.00

Code:
[NOPARSE]SELECT
  year Year,
  solves+DNFs Attempts,
  solves/(solves+DNFs) 'Successes[%]',
  if(solves>0, cast(total/solves as unsigned), 0) 'Average[T]',
  best 'Best[T]',
  worst 'Worst[T]'
FROM
(SELECT
  year,
  sum((value1>0)+(value2>0)+(value3>0)+(value4>0)+(value5>0)) solves,
  sum((value1=-1)+(value2=-1)+(value3=-1)+(value4=-1)+(value5=-1)) DNFs,
  sum(if(value1>0,value1,0)+if(value2>0,value2,0)+if(value3>0,value3,0)+if(value4>0,value4,0)+if(value5>0,value5,0)) total,
  min(least(if(value1>0,value1,9999999),if(value2>0,value2,9999999),if(value3>0,value3,9999999),if(value4>0,value4,9999999),if(value5>0,value5,9999999))) best,
  max(greatest(value1,value2,value3,value4,value5)) worst
FROM Results JOIN Competitions ON Competitions.id = competitionId
WHERE eventId = '444bf'
GROUP BY year) tmp
ORDER BY year;[/NOPARSE]
 
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You thought right :) (unless it's me who made the mistake)

Using data from WCA_export607_20150222 and Stefan's WCA Data Tools.

YearAttemptsSuccessesAverageBestWorst
20031100.00%22:35.0022:35.0022:35.00
2004333.33%19:14.0019:14.0019:14.00
200520.00%27:46:39.99
2006850.00%11:18.998:04.9015:45.00
20075429.63%21:06.926:20.9640:16.00
200821515.81%16:05.856:05.2136:16.00
200928318.37%14:41.914:46.1927:49.00
201060621.45%15:07.984:42.3446:12.00
201184820.99%12:36.183:26.1149:52.00
201295623.01%11:59.852:48.8841:46.00
2013126323.75%10:28.062:30.6232:29.00
2014153923.78%10:20.982:18.6536:44.00
201512117.36%9:48.353:40.5818:21.00

Code:
[NOPARSE]SELECT
  year Year,
  solves+DNFs Attempts,
  solves/(solves+DNFs) 'Successes[%]',
  if(solves>0, cast(total/solves as unsigned), 0) 'Average[T]',
  best 'Best[T]',
  worst 'Worst[T]'
FROM
(SELECT
  year,
  sum((value1>0)+(value2>0)+(value3>0)+(value4>0)+(value5>0)) solves,
  sum((value1=-1)+(value2=-1)+(value3=-1)+(value4=-1)+(value5=-1)) DNFs,
  sum(if(value1>0,value1,0)+if(value2>0,value2,0)+if(value3>0,value3,0)+if(value4>0,value4,0)+if(value5>0,value5,0)) total,
  min(least(if(value1>0,value1,9999999),if(value2>0,value2,9999999),if(value3>0,value3,9999999),if(value4>0,value4,9999999),if(value5>0,value5,9999999))) best,
  max(greatest(value1,value2,value3,value4,value5)) worst
FROM Results JOIN Competitions ON Competitions.id = competitionId
WHERE eventId = '444bf'
GROUP BY year) tmp
ORDER BY year;[/NOPARSE]

Hmm...very interesting...

Can I have the exact same stats as above please, except for blindfold cubers under 15 years of age; also, 333bf - 555bf, not just 444bf.
 

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The WCA doesn't publish age statistics, so I would bet the answer is no.

I would think so too but, just in case it's possible to get ages, I would like to see the statistics. Also, further up in this thread there is an 'average age' of world-class cubers, so maybe it's possible to get what I wanted.
 
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