US Nationals 2012 (Las Vegas)

[5BLD]

Is it possible for someone to double-check my FMC solution? I'm almost certain I didn't DNF.

This was my solution (or at least that's what I'm almost certain I wrote down):

R' D F R B2 D L2 D F L2 F' L' F' L F' R F2 R' U' F U F' R F R' M D' F' D F D R' D' R M' F (38 moves)

R'M 3HTM = r' 1HTM
RM' 3HTM = r 1HTM
4 moves saved... D:

cool solution tho

[Sa967St]

R'M 3HTM = r' 1HTM
RM' 3HTM = r 1HTM
4 moves saved... D:

cool solution tho

Oh wow, I'm such a noob. ._.

I have no idea how I didn't realize that when I was going through the solution.

Sarah, we'll check by FMC time tomorrow.

Thanks!

[That70sShowDude]

it's those dang stupid Gen 3 timers that don't stop when you stop them.

Strong Nationals preparation. Why would you introduce a new timer at an event like this and not test them out a lot? I hope they didn't ruin too many averages. People travel to this from other countries and can't even get reliable timers, lol.

[JackJ]

How bad are the timers? I hadn't heard anything bad about them until now.

[shelley]

Strong Nationals preparation. Why would you introduce a new timer at an event like this and not test them out a lot? I hope they didn't ruin too many averages. People travel to this from other countries and can't even get reliable timers, lol.

You think we didn't test out the timers? A small group of volunteers testing on their own time can't replicate the conditions of a large competition or what might happen if lots of different people hit the timers in lots of different ways. Plus, it's also possible Speedstacks simply sent us a bad batch.

Speedstacks is discontinuing the Gen 2 timers. We are just as displeased as you are that they are replacing it with an inferior product and that we don't have much of an alternative.

[Ranzha V. Emodrach]

Speedstacks is discontinuing the Gen 2 timers. We are just as displeased as you are that they are replacing it with an inferior product and that we don't have much of an alternative.

To be clear, SpeedStacks sent Gen 3 timers? Or their Pro Timers? I was pretty certain their Gen 3 timers didn't have a data port, and if they sent the Pro Timers, what makes them inferior?

[cityzach]

and if they sent the Pro Timers, what makes them inferior?

it's those dang stupid Gen 3 timers that don't stop when you stop them.

Seems like they don't stop.

[shelley]

We're using the Pro timers. It's not just that they don't stop. It's that they occasionally reset when they stop.

[Ranzha V. Emodrach]

We're using the Pro timers. It's not just that they don't stop. It's that they occasionally reset when they stop.

That's awful =( Does this same thing happen in WSSA tournaments?

[Tyson]

That's awful =( Does this same thing happen in WSSA tournaments?

We have no idea... the timing is really bad. Leading up to nationals, we were informed that we could no longer buy Gen2 timers. We were given sample Pro timers, and we sent them around the world for testing. People tested them on three different continents. But even so, there are only so many solves and tests that a single individual can do. A single person cannot simulate the variety of the different ways that people will stop the timer.

The entire issue is much larger than a simple "people traveled a long way and you guys are stupid for switching out the timers." Please be more considerate. We put a lot of thought into everything that goes on, and honestly, Mr. Kotch, I'll let you know right now that I don't think you'd be able to think on our level with a comment like that.