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    Quote Originally Posted by cubelover111 View Post
    I dont have any problem with them being allowed or not but the people here should know how strong our unconscious mind is, even a slight glance (even for a micro second) can be imprinted on your mind don't believe me watch this Go to 5:24
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    What about mini cubes, are they allowed? i can see F R U and L all at once on a smaller cube.
    Is it a J-perm? Are we on PLL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CubeRoots View Post
    What about mini cubes, are they allowed? i can see F R U and L all at once on a smaller cube.
    Yes they are allowed. If you feel that you'll be faster with a mini-cube go right ahead
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godmil View Post
    Yes they are allowed. If you feel that you'll be faster with a mini-cube go right ahead
    it's not that i like minicubes or want to use one. I'm just pointing out that other cubes which are allowed in competitions have this same, supposedly unfair, advantage of being able to determine what a piece is quicker
    Is it a J-perm? Are we on PLL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CubeRoots View Post
    it's not that i like minicubes or want to use one. I'm just pointing out that other cubes which are allowed in competitions have this same, supposedly unfair, advantage of being able to determine what a piece is quicker
    Yeah, but having a cube that is narrower than the space between your eyes isn't necessarily an advantage. Being able to see the back face edge pieces on a good cube without moving your head or rotating the cube is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godmil View Post
    Being able to see the back face edge pieces on a good cube without moving your head or rotating the cube is [an advantage].
    Being able to rotate one face without finishing a rotation of another is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dene View Post
    Stickerless cubes modify the functions of the original Rubik's Cube, by allowing you to see things that you ordinarily can't. Cutting corners does not modify the function of the cube, just the ability to use it.

    EDIT: I realise that my use of "function" could be interpreted differently, and I can't think of the word that I want here, so please interpret me in the sense that I mean and don't be a nubcake and misinterpret me for the sake of a pointless argument.
    I don't get your meaning of "function". In my meaning both cutting corners and stickerless cubes do not modify the "function" of the cube, just the ability to use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubenovice View Post
    Spotting that gorilla was not tough and while solving a cube it's not that you are only paying attention to a specific colour you are constantly looking for different things and also you don't have constantly look at the cube (at least its not the case for advanced cuber) so they could definitely take advantage of the Back face being slightly cisible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubenovice View Post
    completely unrelated.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrKorbin View Post
    I don't get your meaning of "function". In my meaning both cutting corners and stickerless cubes do not modify the "function" of the cube, just the ability to use it.
    Well, for example, the original functions of the cube were to have a colour on each face, to be solved by turning layers and aligning pieces that go next to each other etc. On the original cube it was not possible to see colours by looking between the layers when a slice is turning; you had to rotate the cube to get a look at the sticker on the outside. Now whether or not this would have been the case had Erno thought of the idea of a stickerless cube right at the start, it's hard to say, but probably not (i.e. he probably would not have objected to a stickerless cube), which is why I don't really object to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    Could you put my mind at ease and show me that the tiles are less than 1.5 mm thick?
    The visible part of the deluxe cube tiles is about 1mm thick. The game cube tiles could count as "thicker" because of their deep holes. And both cubes' tiles actually are thicker than 1.5mm if you count their invisible parts under the surface.

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    I don't really see how they can't allow this. If it gives an advantage over stickers it should be allowed.
    What if we were to say that only Rubik's brand was allowed, because speedcubes have an advantage over them?

    I don't see what's wrong with them anyway.
    Last edited by Applejuice; 06-05-2012 at 12:28 PM.

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