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    If you want the same great turn and feel, why not buy 6 stickerless and make six one-color out of it and sticker them?

    Basically you get the force cube, but that way you DO have the same material cubies, just not stickerless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeelingStickers View Post
    apologies if this has already been considered or said, but what would be wrong about having a thin black or white border around each individual cubie face, like how it looks on a normal stickered cube, but just stickerless instead? you get the same great turn and feel, and you don't have to replace any stickers because they aren't any. Plus you cannot see a clip of the opposite colour because all you would get would be a slither of black or white plastic from the border
    The cube you are describing would be fine in a competition (the normal stickered cubes minus the stickers). However, the main type of stickerless cube isn't allowed because when you turn a layer 45 degrees, it is identify a cubie without looking at it's sides. Here's an image I took from Google Images here -



    In the turned M slice, you can see that the back edge is yellow and orange without seeing the orange side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kattenvriendin View Post
    If you want the same great turn and feel, why not buy 6 stickerless and make six one-color out of it and sticker them?

    Basically you get the force cube, but that way you DO have the same material cubies, just not stickerless.
    Or buy a single coloured cube. (no need to make things difficult)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeelingStickers View Post
    apologies if this has already been considered or said, but what would be wrong about having a thin black or white border around each individual cubie face, like how it looks on a normal stickered cube, but just stickerless instead? you get the same great turn and feel, and you don't have to replace any stickers because they aren't any. Plus you cannot see a clip of the opposite colour because all you would get would be a slither of black or white plastic from the border
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguinstorm300 View Post
    The cube you are describing would be fine in a competition (the normal stickered cubes minus the stickers). However, the main type of stickerless cube isn't allowed because when you turn a layer 45 degrees, it is identify a cubie without looking at it's sides. Here's an image I took from Google Images here -



    In the turned M slice, you can see that the back edge is yellow and orange without seeing the orange side.
    Actually it wouldn't. You have to have stickers, paint, tiles, something on there It can't be stickerless even with a border and nothing visible during a turn (not sure why though)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeelingStickers View Post
    apologies if this has already been considered or said, but what would be wrong about having a thin black or white border around each individual cubie face, like how it looks on a normal stickered cube, but just stickerless instead? you get the same great turn and feel, and you don't have to replace any stickers because they aren't any. Plus you cannot see a clip of the opposite colour because all you would get would be a slither of black or white plastic from the border
    It's not a border around the face of each cubie that's needed, it's a different colour on the inside of the pieces, but that's not possible with the current design of the Dayan cubes.
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    true, but if it's possible to design a border around the cubie on the outside, (I'm not saying it is) then surely simply creating regular black internal colours is possible too or am I completely lost here? (I have little knowledge to how cubes are made or put together :/)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeelingStickers View Post
    true, but if it's possible to design a border around the cubie on the outside, (I'm not saying it is) then surely simply creating regular black internal colours is possible too or am I completely lost here? (I have little knowledge to how cubes are made or put together :/)
    That's not how DaYan cubes work
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    Quote Originally Posted by theZcuber View Post
    Actually it wouldn't. You have to have stickers, paint, tiles, something on there It can't be stickerless even with a border and nothing visible during a turn (not sure why though)
    Forgot about that regulation while I was answering the question :P.
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    The Gans II cube got a design where it is stickerless however you are unable to get the advantage as with the DaYan cubes. It got a kind of shell around it. Too bad it isn't such a good cube.

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