View Poll Results: Should stickerless cubes be allowed in competition? Your opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by megaminxwin View Post
    This is getting ridiculous. There's no reason to get rid of this part of the regulations unless someone can prove, without any doubt, that stickerless cubes do not help you get faster.

    Now can we PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD ALREADY. Ugh.
    This is getting ridiculous. There's no reason to get rid of this part of the regulations unless someone can prove, without any doubt, that stickerless cubes help you get faster.
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    Could somebody with a stickerless cube try inserting a small piece of black paper between the edge of each piece? Just enough to cover the furthermost edge... Edges would be fine for providing an example of showing whether my idea works or not.

    If my idea works it should provide a method of using stickerless cubes without 'additional info'.

    The problem with this approach is that each stickerless cube used would have to be verified by a delegate, or perhaps just the scramblers/judges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirjava View Post

    @Kirjava Do you own this cube?? If yes, could you scramble it and take a picture of it to see if it is possible to predict the last 3 edges and last corner( maybe even posistion and orientation)
    BTW why is it mirrored??
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    Quote Originally Posted by musicninja17 View Post
    This is getting ridiculous. There's no reason to get rid of this part of the regulations unless someone can prove, without any doubt, that stickerless cubes help you get faster.
    Your point being?

    Actually, this helps. If there's no proof going either way, why do people want to change it at all? Until we get proof that one way is better than another, we should keep it as it is until we get that proof. It'd be stupid to change it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by megaminxwin View Post
    Actually, this helps.
    Not actually, theoretically.
    Forget the stickerless cubes for a moment. Theoretically, you could cheat during the competitions. What would you say if you were banned until you prove you're not a cheater?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyjam View Post
    Not actually, theoretically.
    Forget the stickerless cubes for a moment. Theoretically, you could cheat during the competitions. What would you say if you were banned until you prove you're not a cheater?
    ...I don't understand this question at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Escher View Post
    Could somebody with a stickerless cube try inserting a small piece of black paper between the edge of each piece? Just enough to cover the furthermost edge...
    Wait, are you suggesting puting paper over all the (possibly visible) internal surfaces? That's going to kill it's turning quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megaminxwin View Post
    ...I don't understand this question at all.
    Is it badly translated? I'm not a native english speaker.

    My point is: no one needs to prove his innocence while there's no clear evidence that he's guilty.
    Your sentence seems to suggest that you disapprove this idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirjava View Post
    Would you be happy to allow the sticker scheme I posted earlier in this thread? (ignoring the centres)

    It amounts to essentially the same thing.
    Yeah, I think I would. From personal experience I wouldn't be worried about it helping people out all that much, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Godmil View Post
    Wait, are you suggesting puting paper over all the (possibly visible) internal surfaces? That's going to kill it's turning quality.
    I think he's saying to put paper between the differently-colored parts of each piece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qqwref View Post
    From personal experience I wouldn't be worried about it helping people out all that much, though.
    You have no idea how good it would be for LSE recognition.

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