ZZ/ZB Home Thread

[uvafan]

[QUOTE=Pyjam;749895
Learn COLL that preserve phasing.
[/QUOTE]
Thanks. So just to clarify, you're saying that I should learn COLL as a subset of ZZLL?

[Pyjam]

Exactly.

In complement, learn those ones:
http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/sh...l=1#post738144

[CubeRoots]

okay, thanks for your input, but just one last thing, to preserve phasing i need algs that don't have three cycles or adjacent two cycles on the edges? thats right ain't it?

finally, the 25-30 was just the zzf2l bit:/

[Pyjam]

Yes, you're right.

[Ewks]

So hi, I've switched to ZZ after 4.5 years of nothing but CFOP last septeber. I got around my usual 15 s averages pretty quickly. (I've been at that barrier for about 3 years now.)

Now I've done some CFOP just for fun to see if I still remember it Turns out I'm actually a little bit faster with it than I was before I switched. Of course stuff like cross have gotten a little worse, also I've forgotten most of my OLLs, but overall I'm faster. So what I'd like you to do now is to tell me why I shouldn't take the easy route and switch back to the boring old CFOP.

[aznanimedude]

it's up to you, one nice thing about learning other methods is you find nice things taht you can incorporate into your normal solves, like my F2L is worlds better now that i do ZZ than it was before.
i unno it's just little things about ZZ solving that i like alot, like the lack of need to do Y rotations during F2L, the fact you always get an opposite color cross, so it's like you're doing VH-F2L, and the fact that opens up the ability to do several different last layer possibilities, like COLL -> EPLL, or full on ZBLL, or ZZLL + phasing. or if you don't feel like doing anything, how it reduces the number of OLL cases you need to know, since you'll always have a cross therefore only need CLL algorithms.

just my thoughts (although i'm not nearly as fast as you LOL, still trying to get around to breaking sub 20 @__@)

[Zaterlord]

How many people knows full ZB?
And who is the fastest ZZ/ZB solver?

[Godmil]

How many people knows full ZB?
And who is the fastest ZZ/ZB solver?

I'd love to find out otherwise, but I'm not convinced anyone currently knows full ZB.

[Escher]

I'd love to find out otherwise, but I'm not convinced anyone currently knows full ZB.

http://www.math.kent.edu/~davidson/

[aznanimedude]

How many people knows full ZB?
And who is the fastest ZZ/ZB solver?

afaik fastest zz solver is Phil Yu aka asmallkitten. ZB dunno