Racing to sub-20

[jms_gears1]

if you look higher on the page i have more info, thanks anways for attempting to give advice, please help.

meh thats still not enough to give you any real advice other than what diniz said.

also what do you consider advanced cross?

as for breakdowns, what are your times for:
cross-
F2L-
OLL-
PLL-

when your timing give yourself about 3 seconds for inspection for each phase other than the beginning of your solve.

[cincyaviation]

what do you consider advanced cross?

thats wheat i was thinking, lol wheat

[ottothedog]

advanced meaning on the bottom, sometimes extended (on purpose)
cross - 3-4 sec.
f2l - 15 sec.
oll - 5 sec.
pll - 5 sec
(sorry i took so long to reply was waiting for comment and did not realize this went on to a differnt page, lol)

[Diniz]

Your OLL is ok for 2Look, you cant improve much there (without learning 1 look).

PLL you REALLY need to pratice fingertricks, since you just executed the PLL (3 sec inspect was given). You can easily cut 3 seconds there on most PLLs...

I myself dont do the cross on bottom, keep praticing, you will get the cross to 2-3 secs..

And for F2L, go slow and look ahead, then start to speed up when your look ahead get better.. Learn algorithms for the bad cases and learn to insert in every position etc, to avoid cube rotations.

[ottothedog]

Thank you so much, I will try slowing down on my f2l and look ahead and will learn to perform my pll's faster (the time given was an estimate some take me 2-3 secs, some 5)

what should I get my f2l time down to?

[jms_gears1]

1.)Your OLL is ok for 2Look, you cant improve much there (without learning 1 look).

2.)PLL you REALLY need to pratice fingertricks, since you just executed the PLL (3 sec inspect was given). You can easily cut 3 seconds there on most PLLs...

3.)I myself dont do the cross on bottom, keep praticing, you will get the cross to 2-3 secs..

4.)And for F2L, go slow and look ahead, then start to speed up when your look ahead get better.. Learn algorithms for the bad cases and learn to insert in every position etc, to avoid cube rotations.

1.)lolwut. Please dont tell me you honestly think you cant sub 3 a 2LOLL
you start off by doing either F(RUR'U')F' / f(RUR'U')f'/both
even with the worst possible case (both) it should still only take a second.
Then one of the seven cases that it leaves + AUF should take at MOST 2 seconds.

2.)agreed. I would start practicing your PLLs and dont time yourself on executing them. What you need to do is find a good way to execute them for you. And find algs that you like. PLL is just as much recog as it is finding algs that are good for you.

3.)Cross is extremely easy to improve on, Just start scrambling and solving crosses. NEVER take more than 8 moves, and try to do them all in 7. Keep the scrambles you use so you can do them over again and find the best solution.

4.)I cant help you much with F2L but i would say turn calmly.

and my last piece of advice is practice. And have fun.

[ottothedog]

Thanks for your advise also, I am currently trying to do cross in under 8 moves as you said, for the dot on oll I am trying to learn those oll cases once I am finished with pll (have to finish g perms and 2 others) and I will make sure that when I finish full pll (hopefully the end of the week) I will be able to exectute quickly as you advised

as asked before, what is good f2l time?

Thanks

[cincyaviation]

3.)Cross is extremely easy to improve on, Just start scrambling and solving crosses. NEVER take more than 8 moves, and try to do them all in 7. Keep the scrambles you use so you can do them over again and find the best solution.

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lolwut?
what if you get one of those few 8 move solutions and its something like
B2 L2 D F' D' B' R' B
why would you not waste a few moves and do it faster?

[cincyaviation]

Thanks for your advise also, I am currently trying to do cross in under 8 moves as you said, for the dot on oll I am trying to learn those oll cases once I am finished with pll (have to finish g perms and 2 others) and I will make sure that when I finish full pll (hopefully the end of the week) I will be able to exectute quickly as you advised

as asked before, what is good f2l time?

Thanks

1 second?
ummm, a good F2L time realistically would be about 6-8 seconds, but getting sub 10 (cross included) can easily get you sub 20

[ottothedog]

Thanks, Sounds hard (you are right about the sub 20 thing with cross and f2l, thats how I got my 19.99 solve)