Full PLL for Megaminx!

[Kenneth]

Thank's to Lars solver we now got algs for all PLL's up on the pages.

Many of the new ones are 3g (RUF/ULF) because that is the fastest search mode (besides 2g that we already had). Algs we found using xg are marked (x ABC), that is so we know where it may be a shorter one if more sides are used, and also the limit to use. The search for more and shorter algs will continue but it will run much slower than this did.

And it will be all OLL's too, that work Lid has started ^^

[qqwref]

The way I solve LL as now is VH-F2L for EO and partial MGLS (mostly sexy moves) for at least two corners, the ones next to the pair. Then I put the pair down and I get 6 diffrent OLL's, then PLL in as many steps I need. Working and pretty fast but turn intensive, I get like 40-50 for the whole LL if I don't know the PLL, else 30 something.

Yeah, this seems pretty turn-intensive. I think if you want to 'reduce' the last layer to PLL you would be much better off with intuitive VHF2L followed by corner-orientation in one look.

[Kenneth]

Yeha, sure, but then I need to learn also the rest of the CO's and I'm too lazy to learn also the last "Brunos"...

I do not speedsolve Megaminx (4-5 minutes first layers and 25 seconds LL =) but I do a lot of alg searching, most of the times I get to situations I cannot solve in one look or I even mess F2L because I can't find my way back, I only need a method for that.

[mazei]

(4-5 minutes first layers and 25 seconds LL =)

[Kenneth]

I do not practice, mabye 30-40 full solves in 2-3 years :P

I hate puzzles that are hard just because it is hard to find the pieces, my limit is 4x4x4 (but I also do 5x5x5 at times).

[mazei]

I mean, the LL time is equivalent to mine, and I've been practicing like mad for quite some time now.

[Kenneth]

And I solve only LL, like 100 times a day or so and probably know more algs, at least PLL's, than any other minxer.

[irontwig]

And I solve only LL, like 100 times a day or so and probably know more algs, at least PLL's, than any other minxer.

It seems to me that you enjoy learning algs way more than getting faster. What's your FL-LL breakdown for 2x2?

[ribonzz]

Megaminx are hard, but my friend can finish it in about 10 minutes..

[Kenneth]

It seems to me that you enjoy learning algs way more than getting faster. What's your FL-LL breakdown for 2x2?

Baad, I have my best averages in the range 6-7 seconds but that is after days of practice, I know way too many CxLL's to quickly react to what I see in front of me, sometimes I'm about to use a COLL of 12 turns when I know a 2x2 CLL of 9 if I'm out of practice

Back to topic, besides Stefans OLL project I have now started a page for ELL as the first LL step:

http://sites.google.com/site/permute...er-methods/ell

It will soon be done, in a day or two...