# Thread: 4B2M - 4X4 Blindfolded 2cycle Method

1. Could you please make some sort of video tutorial of this method?

2. @Bosia, i already make a progress, adaptating that T-Perm Variation to solve + Center at 5x5x5 cube, i would like to share if you like

3. @ Driftboy
If you would please I would really appreciate it. I'm having problems with the center tredge piece.

4. Originally Posted by V-te
@ Driftboy
If you would please I would really appreciate it. I'm having problems with the center tredge piece.
I present to you two solutions.

1. Man up and learn commutators. They are seriously easy.
Example cycle (UR->UL->RF): [U2, 2L E' 2L'] = U2 2L E' 2L U2 2L E 2L'
2. Just do the 'T perm' and use inner slices to setup the pieces.
Example cycle (UR->UL->RF): "T perm" 2L E' 2L' "T perm" 2L E 2L'

Those examples look very similar. In fact, the only thing that the "T perm" is doing for the + centres can be replaced by a U2 turn.

EDIT: If you really want to go down the (lame) path of solving centres one at a time, go with "setup U2 undo-setup" "setup U2 undo-setup", which is basically the U2 method. If you want to maximize centre efficiency, use commutators.

Example: UR -> RU -> FR
Commutator: y U2 [2B L2 2B', M'] U2 y' = y U2 2B L2 2B' M' 2B L2 2B' M U2 y'
U2 method: R' (2L E' 2L' U2 2L E 2L') (2L' E2 2L U2 2L' E2 2L) R = R' 2L E' 2L' U2 2L E 2L2 E2 2L U2 2L' E2 2L R

y U2 2B L2 2B' M' 2B L2 2B' M U2 y'
versus
R' 2L E' 2L' U2 2L E 2L2 E2 2L U2 2L' E2 2L R

5. Hello!
This method is really easy and perfect for beginners I think.
Yesterday I understood the system and today I already got my first centers-only success.
Thanks for the tutorial!

6. i'm very happy than so many people use my method =)
in italy i published a italian translation of the guide and a videotutorial on my youtube channel, but there's just me and marco levrero to solve the 4x4 bld =(
thank you everybody
ps: today i'm recording an english videotutorial, i'm sorry but i haven't read this post for a while

7. Originally Posted by albertobosia
i'm very happy than so many people use my method =)
in italy i published a italian translation of the guide and a videotutorial on my youtube channel, but there's just me and marco levrero to solve the 4x4 bld =(
thank you everybody
ps: today i'm recording an english videotutorial, i'm sorry but i haven't read this post for a while
Using your center method I got my first success

8. Sorry for the bump but it says the files are unavailable. Can somebody just reply with the center algs?

9. You know T-Perm? Just use Rw for R, Rw' for R' and Rw2 for R2.

==> Rw U Rw' U' Rw' F Rw2 U' Rw' U' Rw U Rw' F'

Btw, I got a 14:xx using this method, so sub-15 is doable.

EDIT: Oh and the buffer is Ubr and the target is Ufr.
I have the tutorial printed out lying around here.

10. Originally Posted by albertobosia
i'm very happy than so many people use my method =)
in italy i published a italian translation of the guide and a videotutorial on my youtube channel, but there's just me and marco levrero to solve the 4x4 bld =(
thank you everybody
ps: today i'm recording an english videotutorial, i'm sorry but i haven't read this post for a while
hmmm...Marco, You....and me...

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