# Thread: Fewest Moves: Tips and Techniques

1. How do i solve a domino after reduction? can't figure out how without large numbers of moves

2. Originally Posted by malcolm
How do i solve a domino after reduction? can't figure out how without large numbers of moves
Hmm, this would have deserved a complete analysis in itself.

There are a few approaches one may take:

- blockbuilding
- focus on corners
- focus on edges

Hopefully one may achieve just 3 missing corners or 3 missing edges in rather short sequence, then find insertion (in domino group if possible).

With more extensive search (trying cleverly) the whole thing may just come together ;-)

- Per

3. Thankyou Per.
I would be interested in knowing the longest scramble everyone can find the optimal solution for more than 10&#37; of the time? mine is 7-8 moves

4. I think you should open a seperate topic for this, but for now:

What do you mean "after reduction"?

Not much has been published about the domino. Jaap doesn't even have a calculation about the "optimal solution"

5. After i have changed the cube into a domino. Someone mentioned this as a FM technique.

6. ok so i just tried my first ' fewest moves' solve. using my normal method, i got 120 moves i dont think i am good at this....

7. Turning the cube into a domino and then solving it would be an option. Let me know if you ever do it OK?

And using my normal method I use about 75 moves, but to get sub-30 you need a really advanced method and a lucky solve, or the tips and techniques in this topic.

8. ha! i got 117! lol still not that great.... maybe soon

ps- is there a time limit for this? cuz i was thinking if you wrote down your moves on a sheet of paper then did the solve, it would take less moves since you know what you're doing.... maybe...

9. There is a one hour time limit.
You can write down as many moves as you want (but you cannot use a paper with algorithms or a computer program)
You can solve the cube as often as you want during the solve and you can take back moves or do whatever you want
You can even use 3 cubes for experimenting.
But when you finally give your solution it should be written down clearly and you should be able to explain it if a judge ask you about it.

10. Originally Posted by AvGalen
There is a one hour time limit.
You can write down as many moves as you want (but you cannot use a paper with algorithms or a computer program)
You can solve the cube as often as you want during the solve and you can take back moves or do whatever you want
You can even use 3 cubes for experimenting.
But when you finally give your solution it should be written down clearly and you should be able to explain it if a judge ask you about it.
Hmmm. I use fmc companion most of the time if time is limited. It's an excellent time saver. You should rephrase "computer programs" to "computer solvers" IMHO, unless you really want this to be true competition format :-)

-Per

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