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    Quote Originally Posted by Selkie View Post
    Scramble: B2 D2 R' F2 U2 R' F2 U2 R' B2 R' B' D U R2 B D F D F2
    normal scramble
    F' D . R' U' R2 - 2 squares 5
    B U2 F - 2x2x3 8
    but
    B U2 R F - 2x2x3 9
    R D2 R2 - pseudo F2L-1
    D B' D2 B R2 - leaves 5 corners 17
    should be sub 30 with insertions

    but
    B U2 R2 F - 2x2x3 9
    D B R2 B' - make pair 13
    D R2 D' R2 - 17
    leaves 2 flipped edges and three twisted corners
    When permuted right this can be solves in 9 moves so let's find an insertion for a super duper end result

    Unfortunately no correct permutation, best was 2 set up moves:
    At . insert L2 B R' U' R2 B' R' B2 U' B' U2 B' L2 for a grand total of 30 htm
    [23:23] <+Kirjava> it's hard to do what I do if you're not ****ing insane
    I accidentily a 3rd line

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubenovice View Post
    leaves 2 flipped edges and three twisted corners
    When permuted right this can be solves in 9 moves so let's find an insertion for a super duper end result
    Well I was considering starting to learn the <=9 move LL algs, already knowing full OLL will make it easier. This alg is even more reason too. lovely.

    Some great looking block building too.

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    2 hours of headache, best solution I got: 44 HTM
    B D' R2 F' U' B' R' F R D' L2 U2 B R2 D2 F D2 F' B2 R2 B2
    Spoiler:

    Premove: B
    F L2 U //2x2x1 (3/3)
    D2 R L' U R' L' U2 R D' R2 D //3x2x2 (11/14)
    U R2 U' F' U F //F2L-1 (6/20)
    R' U F' U' F //EO + 1 pair (5/25)
    R F R2 F' //Another pair (4/29)
    * R B' R2 F R F' R2 B2 //Pair 3-cycle + adjust premove (8/37)
    Insert at *: B L' B' R2 B L B' R2 (8-1/44)
    Solution: F L2 U D2 R L' U R' L' U2 R D' R2 D U R2 U' F' U F R' U F' U' F R F R2 F' B L' B' R2 B L B' R' B' R2 F R F' R2 B2 (44 HTM)

    Can someone find a better start?

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    Quote Originally Posted by porkynator View Post
    2 hours of headache, best solution I got: 44 HTM
    B D' R2 F' U' B' R' F R D' L2 U2 B R2 D2 F D2 F' B2 R2 B2
    Can someone find a better start?
    B2 D' - square - 2
    B U L' U' L U F' - 2x2x3 - 9
    B D' B' D' - F2L-1 - 13 not too nice but you could try some niss and or insert some moves
    [23:23] <+Kirjava> it's hard to do what I do if you're not ****ing insane
    I accidentily a 3rd line

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    Quote Originally Posted by porkynator View Post
    2 hours of headache, best solution I got: 44 HTM
    B D' R2 F' U' B' R' F R D' L2 U2 B R2 D2 F D2 F' B2 R2 B2
    Can someone find a better start?
    Have F2L in 18 - Will work on completing later but may yet take it back to F2L-1 for continuation or looking at adding an insert...

    Spoiler:

    On Inverse
    B' F' U' F // 2x2x1
    Switch to Normal
    Premoves F' U F B
    D F U2 // 2x2x2
    B2 D B D // 3x2x2
    B' R B2 R2 B // F2L-1
    R B // Pseudo 3x2x1 - Requires B' Premove for F2l making Premoves B' F' U F B
    Last edited by Selkie; 08-19-2012 at 01:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by porkynator View Post
    2 hours of headache, best solution I got: 44 HTM
    B D' R2 F' U' B' R' F R D' L2 U2 B R2 D2 F D2 F' B2 R2 B2
    Spoiler:

    Premove: B
    F L2 U //2x2x1 (3/3)
    D2 R L' U R' L' U2 R D' R2 D //3x2x2 (11/14)
    U R2 U' F' U F //F2L-1 (6/20)
    R' U F' U' F //EO + 1 pair (5/25)
    R F R2 F' //Another pair (4/29)
    * R B' R2 F R F' R2 B2 //Pair 3-cycle + adjust premove (8/37)
    Insert at *: B L' B' R2 B L B' R2 (8-1/44)
    Solution: F L2 U D2 R L' U R' L' U2 R D' R2 D U R2 U' F' U F R' U F' U' F R F R2 F' B L' B' R2 B L B' R' B' R2 F R F' R2 B2 (44 HTM)

    Can someone find a better start?
    D' B U2 F' D' F B2 U2 R' B U B2 R B R2 U R U' F' U' B' U F U' R2 B R' F' B2 (29)

    D' B U2
    F' D' F B2
    U2
    R'.:B' R2 B
    R' F' B2

    .=B U B2 R B R2 U R U2
    :=U F' U' B' U F U' B
    I'm gonna go get me some FMC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irontwig View Post
    .=B U B2 R B R2 U R U2
    Cool two insertions of this alg on the same page!!!
    [23:23] <+Kirjava> it's hard to do what I do if you're not ****ing insane
    I accidentily a 3rd line

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    First Time Doing FMC
    Scramble: F' L U B2 D L B' L2 R D R B2 L D' B U2 B' F' D' F' D' L2 R' F' L2 F2 D2 U L2 R

    Solution:
    2x2: F L F' L2 D2
    2X2X3: L' B' U' B2 U L2
    F2L 1: B U B' U' B U B' U2 B2
    F2L 2: U2 B L' B' L
    OLL: F R2 B' R' B R'
    PLL: U' F U F U F U' F' U' F2 U
    Solution: F L F' L2 D2 L' B' U' B2 U L2 B U B' U' B U B' U2 B2 U2 B L' B' L F R2 B' R' B R' U' F U F U F U' F' U' F2 U

    If you could give me any tips i would appreciate it it!
    Last edited by KCuber; 08-19-2012 at 06:38 PM.
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    Quick try.

    First, there's a typo in your 223 block, it's:
    222 : F L F' L2 D2
    223 : L' B' U' B2 U L2

    After that, there's an easy 221 block with:
    B' L' B2 L

    But it doesn't match the 223 block, so you need a premove.
    Both B' as premove (before the scramble) + B' L' B2 L B2
    and B2 as premove + B' L' B2 L B'
    give F2L -1 slot

    I choose B' + B' L' B2 L B2

    Now we need to orient the edges.
    y F' U' F does the job.

    Now, we did not complete the F2L but we place all the edges while trying to form some blocks.
    Here, we have an easy case:
    R U' R' U2

    Now, there's only 4 corners to cycle, and the cube will be solved.

    Until now, we have:
    Premove B' // 1
    F L F' L2 D2 // 6
    L' B' U' B2 U L2 // 12
    B' L' B2 L B2 // 17
    y F' U' F // 20
    R U' R' U2 // 24

    It's better to remove the cube rotation, and to move the premove to the end.
    F L F' L2 D2
    L' B' U' B2 U L2
    B' L' B2 L B2
    R' U' R B U' B' U2
    B'

    This is a 24 moves skeleton in which we need to insert two 3-corner cycles in order to get cancellations.

    But it's too late here, and Insertion Finder is down... Sorry.

    With the first permutation, we only need to place one corner. So, we'll probably get a lot of cancellations: 3, or 4, or even more.
    With the second one, we hope 1 or 2 cancellations.
    24 moves + 2x 8 for the insertions - 5 = 35 moves.

    A 35 moves solution is likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyjam View Post
    Quick try.

    First, there's a typo in your 223 block, it's:
    222 : F L F' L2 D2
    223 : L' B' U' B2 U L2
    My bad, i went back to my notes and i did write down B2, thanks for the tips!
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