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    Blah,
    can you post your LUR COLL algs?
    And how do you recognize using your system?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanwuq View Post
    Blah,
    can you post your LUR COLL algs?
    And how do you recognize using your system?
    I second that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanwuq View Post
    Blah,
    can you post your LUR COLL algs?
    And how do you recognize using your system?
    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
    I second that.
    I'll start working on that now. But don't get your hopes up. It's nothing new! It's just a really intuitive system that naturally came as I was trying to recognize cases. I'm not too sure how Dan and Lars (of VH) recognize because there really isn't a very comprehensive description on Dan's page, but I'm pretty sure mine is almost identical to theirs, only the Sune and Antisune cases are different.
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    As for recognizing, I find the way Rowe does it quite easy and fast (I'll admit, I suck at it. But it's obviously fast enough for him).
    CBA to link his videos on youtube though
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterofthebass View Post
    ... Not all of the hyperorientations even work for NMCxLL anyway.
    What? Do you know wich cases don't work?

    When reading your COLL Page http://cube.danrcohen.com/coll.html I wondered why your "recognition stickers" are not as I would have predicted

    Not that I'm the biggest fan of hyperorientation, or think the page http://home.comcast.net/~quadricode/hyperorientations/ is easy to understand.

    But getting NMCxLL for free, made me believe every roux solver who starts learning CMLL, should be adviced to learn Hyperorientation - am I wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oll+phase+sync View Post
    What? Do you know wich cases don't work?

    When reading your COLL Page http://cube.danrcohen.com/coll.html I wondered why your "recognition stickers" are not as I would have predicted

    Not that I'm the biggest fan of hyperorientation, or think the page http://home.comcast.net/~quadricode/hyperorientations/ is easy to understand.

    But getting NMCxLL for free, made me believe every roux solver who starts learning CMLL, should be adviced to learn Hyperorientation - am I wrong?
    Hyperorientations work for like 90% of R2 NMCLL, but in reality, any CLL recognition technique is just a tool to learn. At a certain point, you end up learning what the case looks like, so whatever you use can work.

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    You should learn C*LL for 4x4x4 so you don't have to do step 6 in two looks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oll+phase+sync View Post
    What? Do you know wich cases don't work?

    When reading your COLL Page http://cube.danrcohen.com/coll.html I wondered why your "recognition stickers" are not as I would have predicted

    Not that I'm the biggest fan of hyperorientation, or think the page http://home.comcast.net/~quadricode/hyperorientations/ is easy to understand.

    But getting NMCxLL for free, made me believe every roux solver who starts learning CMLL, should be adviced to learn Hyperorientation - am I wrong?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirjava View Post
    You should learn C*LL for 4x4x4 so you don't have to do step 6 in two looks.

    :3
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    no kirjava and masterofthebass can
    no one can tell them what to do :3

    cuz they cool and stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirjava View Post
    You should learn C*LL for 4x4x4 so you don't have to do step 6 in two looks.

    :3
    i almost always need to do step 6 2 look, but i switched methods
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