The OLL and PLL help thread

[soccerking813]

I learned Fridrich F2L around that time. I would suggest you learn it now also.

[StachuK1992]

the 60k question... what to learn first? F2L, OLL, PLL or HTML??.... difficult choice..

getting serious, personally i started with intuitive F2L, then full PLL, then i learnt the 7 OLL of the cross, and now i'm starting to look into some "less intuitive" F2L cases to improve those.

haha...that's exactly where I'm at!

ontopic: Learn F2L(badmephisto's videos)

[Lofty]

Unless you plan on using Roux or CF or something then I think you should learn how to solve the F2L. But it looks like you can already do that.

[Lorn]

you should learn how to solve the F2L. But it looks like you can already do that.

How does it look like I can already do it?

[DAE_JA_VOO]

I did Intuitive F2L and the PLLs at the same time. Worked fine for me

[blgentry]

You're probably going to get bigger improvements in your times by focusing on F2L until you "have it". Once you feel comfortable with F2L, memorizing the rest of the PLL algs will definitely shave some seconds off of your last layer.

I would *definitely* do F2L first.

Oh and PS: The other poster thinks you can already do F2L because in your original posting, you said your "first attempt with F2L and PLL" was around a 41 second solve.

Brian.

[daniel0731ex]

umm....im sub30 and im using LBL+2sOLL+2sPLL. don't want to use F2L

[Lofty]

you should learn how to solve the F2L. But it looks like you can already do that.

How does it look like I can already do it?

Because F2L is simply the first two layers. Therefore corners then edges solves the F2L. There are many different and fast ways to solve the F2L that are not Fridrich.
Basically I just want to say that once you can do LBL and want to move on Fridrich is not the only path to take. So I think the next step should be learn some different methods and find which one you like best.
I actually made my post about 2 minutes before his 41 second solve.

[tfkscores]

Right now my best is 33 seconds with f2l and then the rest of the beginner method [dan browns]. I want to get faster but there are around 50 something oll's that i dont want to memorize. i could do pll though theres only 13 or something. would it be possible to finish the last layer without the colors right like you would with the beginner method execpt the color would be in the right place.. sorry if this confuses you it does for me to haha.

oh yea my average is around 50 seconds

[sooland]

you should just learn the basic Olls, like the cross situations. You can use the begginer method to get to the cross on oll. On pll, learn the algorithm that gets you to edge situations, and you can learn 3 algorithms to solve the cube. This is intermediate fridrich, and then from there you can slowly learn new algorithms for more common situations.